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#16 2011-02-12 20:07:40

els
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Re: [wiki] User Doc / Wiki Plugin Documentation

Wow, you’ve been doing a lot of work! I’m still having doubts if we should change the links to the plugin files in the wiki into links to the plugin pages on textpattern.org, or just remove all links to the plugin files, so that no one is tempted to download an outdated plugin, or just change the warning and include a link to textpattern.org in it.

Changing all these links now seems like a lot of work for something that will exist only for a limited time…

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#17 2011-02-12 20:11:48

els
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Re: [wiki] User Doc / Wiki Plugin Documentation

maverick wrote:

Seems like I recall a couple of discussions about wanting to archive multiple versions and outdated plugs at Txp Resources. Just in case someone needed it for an older install, or wanted to use as a basis for a new plugin, or for the sake of prosperity.

Yes, that’s why I said ‘keeping the plugin files available’. We can keep them until we are certain no one is going to need them, or until they can be moved to .org, and in the meantime remove all links to them to avoid confusion.

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#18 2011-02-12 20:50:22

maverick
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Re: [wiki] User Doc / Wiki Plugin Documentation

Els wrote:

Changing all these links now seems like a lot of work for something that will exist only for a limited time…

I agree.

I said ‘keeping the plugin files available‘.

Sorry – I read that, but it obviously didn’t register :)

you’ve been doing a lot of work!

I’m not sure if it will help in the end, or just have been busy work. But in case it can help with updating the user docs, and with speeding up the the transition to Txp Resources, I thought I’d throw it out there.

so that no one is tempted to download an outdated plugin

I would have said remove the links before I started comparing the two.

But.

A few plugins on the wiki are not available at Txp.org, and a couple on the wiki are a newer version than the ones at Txp.org

For a couple, there are updates or bug fixes in their forums (or github) that make them work (there is a working version of rss_database netcarver’s github for example).

Another item I notices is that the wiki lists what version of Txp they are compatible with. Txp.org is much more inconsistent at that.

Is there someone with access to Txp.org who can upload the desired files while we are working on this and then we can delete it all?

Last edited by maverick (2011-02-12 20:50:39)

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#19 2011-02-12 21:21:00

jsoo
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Re: [wiki] User Doc / Wiki Plugin Documentation

maverick wrote:

Is there someone with access to Txp.org who can upload the desired files while we are working on this and then we can delete it all?

Yes, if they are files that really should be uploaded :)


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#20 2011-02-12 21:42:01

maverick
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Re: [wiki] User Doc / Wiki Plugin Documentation

Wiki Doc Plugins Available on Wiki / Not Available As Downloads From Txp.org, or via a link to the Author’s Site or Txp Forum

  • version is only listed if it differs from Txp.org listing
  • Wiki versions that are newer are noted

ako_

bas_

hpw_

ied_

mcw_

mdp_

mem_

  • mem_imbd_votes: wiki v0.1; No listing @ Txp Resources

pap_

  • pap_moderate_comments: wiki v0.3; No listing at Txp Resources
  • pap_printer_friendly: wiki v0.2; No listing @ Txp Resources
  • pap_xpoll: wiki v0.2; Txp Resources v unclear , Appears To Be A Newer Version

Last edited by maverick (2011-02-12 21:49:26)

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#21 2011-02-12 21:45:01

maverick
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Re: [wiki] User Doc / Wiki Plugin Documentation

jsoo wrote:

Yes, if they are files that really should be uploaded :)

Fair enough :)

I tried to do the leg work on versions and availability. Those who know Txp.org’s goals will have to make the call on what, if any should be uploaded :D

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#22 2011-02-12 21:56:06

jsoo
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Re: [wiki] User Doc / Wiki Plugin Documentation

maverick wrote:

I tried to do the leg work on versions and availability. Those who know Txp.org’s goals will have to make the call on what, if any should be uploaded :D

You’ve done a great service — thanks!


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#23 2011-02-12 22:12:22

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Re: [wiki] User Doc / Wiki Plugin Documentation

I’m not sure if it was great or more OCD :-P But thank you. It’s only a small effort in giving back to a community that has helped me.

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#24 2011-02-12 22:23:38

els
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Re: [wiki] User Doc / Wiki Plugin Documentation

I still haven’t found out where in the wiki the ‘malicious code’ warning can be edited…

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#25 2011-02-18 13:15:47

Destry
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Re: [wiki] User Doc / Wiki Plugin Documentation

Guys,

Don’t kill yourselves over nothing. I would just remove everything having to do with plugins. That would be good for the Txp user docs :)

What most of you seem to have forgotten is that quite a while ago, when it looked like nothing was ever going to be done to improve the current plugin situation, I started a little experiment to make a plugin directory in the wiki. Something that made it infinitely easier to find plugins based on what they do, where they applied, etc.

Somewhere in the wiki there might be the original table pages where the directory main pages existed, but maybe not. I can’t remember. All the underlying plugin files…what you are finding…was from that experiment.

EDIT: one key motivation for the experiment was to prevent plugin links from disappearing at the dev’s own site, which we know is a common problem over time. So not only did the experiment harbor the plugin code, but it harbored versions of it too.

Not long after, there were signs that the .org site would be turning into this cool, new plugin wonderland and the wiki experiment ended.

So, do yourselves a favor — and the wiki a favor — and just delete all that stuff and refocus plugin efforts at .org. Seriously.

Hope that helps.

(And, no, I didn’t read this whole thread, so sorry if I’m saying what you already know or are doing. Carry on.)

Last edited by Destry (2011-02-18 13:21:15)

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#26 2011-02-18 14:38:24

maverick
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Re: [wiki] User Doc / Wiki Plugin Documentation

Hey Destry!

Thanks for chiming in.

We did figure out how the section came about, why it ended, and that Txp.org was the place for everything plugin. :)

The summary of the thread was I identified any unique content (plugin text files) that we may want to archive at Txp.org prior to expunging the plugin archive experiment. There’s a post that sums that assessment up.

There’s also a post that identifies plugins that had their txt file archived at the wiki, but the download link is not working.

A couple of those are not available elsewhere – so if they are still available in the database (they just have a broken link), and if we want them for posterity, they’ll have to be found.

Other than that, the unique content has to be moved to Txp.or (if it’s wanted), and things deleted.

Last edited by maverick (2011-02-18 15:17:29)

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#27 2011-02-18 15:10:22

Destry
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Re: [wiki] User Doc / Wiki Plugin Documentation

Excellent! Sounds like things are well in hand.

The versions of plugin code were simply uploaded to the file gallery as .txt files, so if the download links are not working, I’m not sure why that would be. We could look in the tables, if necessary, to see if anything is there.

(Note to self: Wiki really needs updated to current version.)

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