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#331 2008-02-21 18:19:04

masa
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

jameslomax wrote:

The browse_by plug in was a great discovery, though of course it doesn’t load up into the images page.

It sure loads here in the images tab allowing me to quickly select any category, both under 4.0.5 and 4.0.6.

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#332 2008-02-21 19:23:26

jameslomax
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

It was conflicting with ebl_BatchUpload, which I’ve now disabled.

Anyway, back to the topic in question.

What gives, with all this discussion, the great ideas, and where this all went?……

44474 views: one of the major discussions at this forum.

Last edited by jameslomax (2008-03-06 20:26:20)

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#333 2008-05-09 14:05:44

frangarcia
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

I think it would be nice to have the possibility to manage de images as well as the articles can be managed using a massive way to do some actions, like changing the category, the author or just deleting them. Maybe there is already a plugin which can do it, but I haven’t found anything and I think that should be in the core of textpattern.

Does anyone know a plugin who acts like this?


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#334 2008-05-15 07:17:58

masa
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

frangarcia wrote:

I think it would be nice to have the possibility to manage de images as well as the articles can be managed using a massive way to do some actions, like changing the category, the author or just deleting them

There’s no plugin, but this might be addressed fairly soon

Last edited by masa (2008-05-15 07:18:30)

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#335 2008-05-16 20:10:40

MarcoK
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

hem… 34 page it’s too long for reading.
Cai I ask a little explication text af all in the firt post?

So… You have decided something to change in next release?

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#336 2008-05-17 09:49:23

ruud
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

Since the first post was over 2 years ago and quite a few new versions were released in the mean time, the answer is no.

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#337 2009-07-24 17:03:01

jameslomax
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

what about now?

I have, quite literally, been waiting years for txp image management to improve.

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#338 2009-07-24 17:18:03

Bloke
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

jameslomax wrote:

what about now? I have, quite literally, been waiting years for txp image management to improve.

Well I’m on the team now. I want image support to improve so I’ll do what I can to help make that happen. No promises of course, but it’s an issue close to my heart :-)

If I get a chance to review this colossal thread and distill it down to something that makes sense for the majority of users, we can go from there. Of course, if somebody with more free time / better vision than me would like to consolidate the central ideas in this thread and present them for discussion either here or in a new topic, it would help immensely.

P.S. If you look on the issues tracker you’ll see that item #4 is a grid view for images. Once the UI obstacles are tackled, it should pave the way for some of the other things to improve image support.


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#339 2009-07-24 18:06:33

iblastoff
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

there was sort of a thread summary posted here but it didn’t seem to get too far:

http://textpattern.net/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Improved_Image_Handling

personally my biggest beef with image handling is the way they don’t seem to have any real integration or sensible workflow with articles at all (at least out of the box.) it seems kind of silly to expect a user to:

1) click away from the article write tab you’re working on to navigate to the image tab
2) upload an image. memorize the silly image number
3) go back to the article tab to load the article you were working on just so you can return to the write tab and manually type in the number to attach to the article

now, of course certain plugins improve this workflow but from my viewpoint, the way it is out of the box doesn’t work at all and should be a core issue to fix.

Last edited by iblastoff (2009-07-24 18:08:23)

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#340 2009-07-24 21:28:13

masa
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

Bloke wrote:

If you look on the issues tracker you’ll see that item #4 is a grid view for images.

Yes, multiple columns would be brilliant to have.

Now to take this even further, I would love to see image names, alt texts and captions displayed and the option to do quick edits right within that grid without the need to click on individual images – that would be delirious  :-)

As Steve mentions a simple image upload from the write tab would be a nice addition, but personally I’ve found that once you show your end users how to open the write tab and the images tab in separate browser tabs and switch between them, this is hardly an issue anymore.

If an image upload from the write tab would be implemented, you’d also need to add some kind of limiter/automatic resize function (e.g. blogger). In my experience 95% of users just don’t have any understanding of pixel sizes and will happily try to upload full-size jpegs from their 12 MP cameras.

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#341 2009-09-21 18:37:55

jameslomax
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

“the way it is out of the box doesn’t work at all and should be a core issue to fix”

I agree – it doesn’t actually work, and given the importance of images (magazines, catalogues, newspapers, e commerce…..you name it, you use images), I don’t understand why this has been so neglected, for literally years.

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#342 2009-09-23 14:52:00

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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

frangarcia wrote:

I think it would be nice to have the possibility to manage de images as well as the articles can be managed using a massive way to do some actions, like changing the category, the author or just deleting them.

As of Txp 4.2.0 we can now change image authors via the multi-edit form in the main image list. (Something I’ve wanted for years.) If this was announced I missed it; don’t see it in HISTORY.txt (or mentioned here, or anywhere else). But there it is. You’ll only see the option if you already have multiple image authors.

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#343 2009-11-17 13:10:20

philwareham
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From: Haslemere, Surrey, UK
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

Hi there,
Anyone know if there are planned improvements to the admin images section now that TXP4.2.0 is out of the door? From what I have read on this (rather lengthy) topic people are really craving the following…

1. A better gallery view structure for the images section, based on multiple columns and possibly category folders etc.
2. A way to find and delete unused batches of images, or an indicator as to if and where an image has been used at all in articles.
3. A more intuitive way of inserting images into articles instead of jumping between multiple pages of the admin area.

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#344 2009-11-17 13:59:34

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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

It has been said before but image names instead of id’s would be great at some stage.
It would help search engine rankings for photographers and artists websites big time.


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#345 2009-11-17 14:09:43

philwareham
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From: Haslemere, Surrey, UK
Registered: 2009-06-11
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Re: Improving TXP Image Management

kvnmcwebn wrote:

It has been said before but image names instead of id’s would be great at some stage.
It would help search engine rankings for photographers and artists websites big time.

Yeah, I second that. Although TXP does rename image files on upload (to their ID no) it still keeps a record of the original filename so I guess it would be really easy to spoof that filename instead of the renamed image. I’ve always found it strange that for file uploads TXP keeps the original filename intact but for images it renames them.

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