bot_admin_tooltips

redbot · 2009-10-01 14:07:15

FireFusion wrote:

I just installed this and it was working fine. Then i installed glz_custom_fields and it’s not working anymore.

Ok. Have you tried uninstalling it (after pressing the “uninstall” button) and reinstalling again? And clearing the cache? Do tou have hak_tinymce installed?

One usability request is to either move the uninstall option to it’s own options page under the plugins tab or add another big red “update” button at the bottom of the list. Evey time i make a change i’m afraid i’ll hit “uninstall” instead of “update” :(

Yes I know, I placed the button on the top because when you have defined 20 tooltips you don’t want to scroll everytime to the bottom. Furthermore an html form shouldn’t have more than one submit I think. Anyway I’ll see if I come up with a better idea.

Add HTML or textile ability to tooltips. Recreating the Admin|Privileges help is hard without lists or line breaks :P

1) linebreaks should work out-of-the-box
2) there is html ability out-of-the-box too (so you can put links in text, for example)
3) I don’t think I’ll add textile. All in all you are supposed to write tooltips only once in a while…

Last edited by redbot (2009-10-01 14:12:40)

FireFusion · 2009-10-01 14:33:58

redbot wrote:

FireFusion wrote:

I just installed this and it was working fine. Then i installed glz_custom_fields and it’s not working anymore.

Ok. Have you tried uninstalling it (after pressing the “uninstall” button) and reinstalling again? And clearing the cache? Do tou have hak_tinymce installed?

Yep i just tried and get the same problem. I get this problem on two different sites local and remote. One has hak_tinymce and the other doesn’t. Both have glz_custom_fields.

I’m getting very random behavior from the different tabs. Some have no tooltips, other have some and in this case both

Last edited by FireFusion (2009-10-01 14:39:39)

RedFox · 2009-10-01 14:38:49

Thank you @redbot … this is a very nice plug-in … very handy for some sites and some clients.

Is it possible that I can change [ ? ] into some other characters or even an image?

Last edited by RedFox (2009-10-01 14:53:01)

FireFusion · 2009-10-01 14:44:01

redbot wrote:

Add HTML or textile ability to tooltips. Recreating the Admin|Privileges help is hard without lists or line breaks :P

1) linebreaks should work out-of-the-box
2) there is html ability out-of-the-box too (so you can put links in text, for example)
3) I don’t think I’ll add textile. All in all you are supposed to write tooltips only once in a while…

I tried to but in a link and it got shallowed rather then entered. I see now that other HTML works. I don’t need links anyway :)

Last edited by FireFusion (2009-10-01 15:37:27)

redbot · 2009-10-01 16:25:21

RedFox wrote:

Is it possible that I can change [ ? ] into some other characters or even an image?

Sure. As I wrote in the plugin help each tooltip has a class of “bot_tip” (yes it’s a stupid name, I forgot to change it) so you can do whatever you want adding a few lines in textpattern.css.

edit: actually – while you can change the look of the anchor as you like – you can’t change the anchor into some other characters if not modifyng the plugins code (just a line). If you really need it ask me and I’ll tell you how.

Last edited by redbot (2009-10-01 16:46:07)

redbot · 2009-10-01 16:39:42

FireFusion wrote:

I’m getting very random behavior from the different tabs. Some have no tooltips, other have some and in this case both

Hi,
Can you give more details? Maybe this has to do with the repeated jquery outlined by maniqui.
Which other plugins are you using?
Does the site with hak_tinymce have the “Show editor toggle” option set to “yes”?
When you are experiencing the problem shown in the picture I presume you have the “hide pophelps” option set to “yes” otherwise this is the correct behaviour.

I hope to solve these problems soon, thanks for the help.

RedFox · 2009-10-01 17:11:52

redbot wrote:

edit: actually – while you can change the look of the anchor as you like – you can’t change the anchor into some other characters if not modifyng the plugins code (just a line). If you really need it ask me and I’ll tell you how.

Please do … :)

redbot · 2009-10-01 19:22:52

RedFox wrote:

Please do … :)

Ok. Go to plugins tab > bot_admin_tooltips > edit.
Search for  [ ? ]  and replace with whatever you want (the   is the html entity for blank space, I used it because of ie not displaying normal spaces).

Last edited by redbot (2009-10-01 19:23:26)

masa · 2009-10-01 19:37:52

No problems here so far on an 4.0.8 install (without glz_custom_fields).

I was wondering though, whether it’s technically possible to extend the hover-sensitive area to include the label text, so users wouldn’t have to point exactly at the [?].

RedFox · 2009-10-01 19:52:58

redbot wrote:

Ok. Go to plugins tab > bot_admin_tooltips > edit.
Search for  [ ? ]  and replace with whatever you want

:)

Last edited by RedFox (2009-10-01 19:55:32)

redbot · 2009-10-01 21:50:18

masa wrote:

I was wondering though, whether it’s technically possible to extend the hover-sensitive area to include the label text, so users wouldn’t have to point exactly at the [?].

Yes. Not only it is technically possible but it’s actually easier and my “beta” versions worked this way.
I’ve come to think, though, that my solution is better because:

After a while it’s not so funny for a real user to see all this tooltips (which – at a certan point – they have presumably memorized) jumping around every time you move the mouse.
I needed to be able to put links in tooltips so I couldn’t use the “hover” event but only the “click” event. This implies – given that I’m gonna use an image replacement technique to create a button – that the “sensible” area should coincide with the button image.
To tell the truth, I’m all in favour of buttons and “click” events as opposed to hovers, at least in this scenario. It’s subtler and serves better the pourpose I think.

edit: But you asked to expand only the hover (while maintaining the existing area for clicks). Sorry, I don’t think I’ll do it because this would imply adding more complexity to the code and the plugin to be a pain to mantain.

Last edited by redbot (2009-10-01 22:05:30)

masa · 2009-10-01 22:03:32

redbot wrote:

To tell the truth, I’m all in favour of buttons and “click” events as opposed to hovers, at least in this scenario. It’s subtler and serves better the pourpose I think.

I can now see your point – after a while the automatic hover pop-ups could indeed become annoying.

gomedia · 2009-10-02 12:46:00

redbot wrote:

This plugin allows to add fancy tooltips to the admin interface …

This is something I’ve been working on for some time to implement in adi_notes but it seems that you’ve beaten me to it.

And thank goodness! I’ve mucked around with various methods, but have never been satisfied and you’ve done a much better job on it anyway.

Thanks, it’s a blessed release!

FireFusion · 2009-10-02 12:53:55

redbot wrote:

FireFusion wrote:

I’m getting very random behavior from the different tabs. Some have no tooltips, other have some and in this case both

Hi,
Can you give more details? Maybe this has to do with the repeated jquery outlined by maniqui.
Which other plugins are you using?

On the local site just this and glz_custom_fields.

On the remote site the following…

ebl-image-edit
cnk_versioning
jbx_multiple_image_upload
rah_external_output
rah_sitemap
rvm_privileged
smd_calendar
smd_lib
smd_gallery
zem_nth
hak_tinymce
rvm_css
adi_gps
lam_browse_by
stm_article_order
glz_custom_fields

Does the site with hak_tinymce have the “Show editor toggle” option set to “yes”?

Yes but with or without is the same

When you are experiencing the problem shown in the picture I presume you have the “hide pophelps” option set to “yes” otherwise this is the correct behavior.

“Hide txp pophelps” is ticked

uli · 2009-10-02 12:56:29

uli wrote:

Why isn’t that invented since ages?

gomedia wrote:

This is something I’ve been working on for some time to implement in adi_notes

Adi in adi_notes. I could have guessed :) Thanks for the efforts!

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