Tipattern - hard mod of the textpattern

keith · 2009-07-04 16:46:57

I’m 100% with Robert here – maybe it’s a good thing, but this is Textpattern’s home: I can always choose to visit the Tipattern or XPat communities if I want to read about them…

jnope · 2009-07-04 17:16:00

IMHO … This is a forum, I am writing my opinion, I share my ideas, philosophy of open source and git, fork to add other ideas to improve the integration, if the community is closed and you can not work what the code is open, one that I created in my small and available to everyone and everyone can edit and / or use as they see fit, I think that this is the right spirit and I repeat that it is my humble opinion. I think it gives better discuss that remain closed in their own ideas:)

mrdale · 2009-07-04 17:20:06

I just feel like there’s very little point in getting territorial about this. It’s a world of ideas, and while I’m not about to run a hacked/forked version of TXP on a prime time site. Doesn’t it help everyone to be exposed to different ideas. I like to see how people can bend TXP and can’t really understand what the

And don’t even bring up the point of wasted bandwith/pixels/etc…

This is “General Discussions: Web development, miscellaneous topics, anything not really Textpattern-related.” so I can go on at length about my obsession with Cigar Smoking nuns if I like, right? Damn she’s a cutie!

[edited to add a second image for cross cultural sensitivity]

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jnope · 2009-07-04 17:22:41

danwoodward wrote:

found a fix for this. See on Git hub issue tracker

tanks i work to add some new feature and back compatibility whit stable trunk of txp, please wait stay tuned ;P

jnope · 2009-07-04 17:52:40

mrdale wrote:

I just feel like there’s very little point in getting territorial about this. It’s a world of ideas, and while I’m not about to run a hacked/forked version of TXP on a prime time site. Doesn’t it help everyone to be exposed to different ideas. I like to see how people can bend TXP and can’t really understand what the

And don’t even bring up the point of wasted bandwith/pixels/etc…

This is “General Discussions: Web development, miscellaneous topics, anything not really Textpattern-related.” so I can go on at length about my obsession with Cigar Smoking nuns if I like, right? Damn she’s a cutie!

[edited to add a second image for cross cultural sensitivity]

mmmm ???

more ideas = good discussion ;)

jstubbs · 2009-07-04 17:57:11

wet wrote:

Would all the Textpattern forks please do their PR / bug tracking on their own premises? Thank you.

Robert (wet) requested that any PR or bug reports of forks were kept on their own site, not that you should stop discussing ideas.

mrdale · 2009-07-04 18:50:02

jstubbs wrote:

Robert (wet) requested that any PR or bug reports of forks were kept on their own site, not that you should stop discussing ideas.

A “General” forum topic is er… General. It’s hard for me not to see this as a wee bit silly. Consider this… if someone wants to know how to fix some kind of jQuery integration issue with TXP, we don’t tell them to go fly a kite and discuss that somewhere else…

Like I said, it really doesn’t matter to me, but part of what I like about this forum is that every now and then someone bends TXP in a different way. I like to know about that without having to go on a google hunt.

reid · 2009-07-04 19:00:33

wet wrote:

please … Thank you.

I think the Internet has officially made asking politely a quaint artifact.

My personal opinion only. Do carry on as you please.

els · 2009-07-04 21:08:20

I wrote:

Still, it’s not a very good idea to ask people to post bug reports on this forum, unless you turn it into a plugin ;)

We’re only saying that this forum is not meant to be a ti, x (or anything other than text) pattern support forum. No more is it a place to actively promote your ti or x or rolexes or whatever.
Mention it here, discuss it here for a while, and if it turns out that people are interested create your own discussion space.

mrdale: to a certain extent, not at length ;)

keith · 2009-07-04 21:24:16

mrdale wrote:

A “General” forum topic is er… General. It’s hard for me not to see this as a wee bit silly. Consider this… if someone wants to know how to fix some kind of jQuery integration issue with TXP, we don’t tell them to go fly a kite and discuss that somewhere else…

Yes, it’s a “General” forum – so discussing kite flying is about as valid a subject matter for it as Tipattern issues or people recruiting help to write “a better version of Txp…”

Sorry, but this is just not how things are done.

mrdale · 2009-07-04 23:02:23

OK folks. Consider my desire for people to chill a bit, officially stifled.

Here’s something nice to show you I can be properly chastened without losing a good attitude.

hcgtv · 2009-07-05 16:28:12

I feel it’s better to keep everything under one roof, as we suggested, which ultimately led to xPattern. All you keep doing is splintering the community instead of strengthening it with these, this is my sandbox, go play in yours mentality.

I respect Robert’s wishes but I believe it’s the wrong approach.

ruud · 2009-07-05 16:55:58

Did the topic starter submit any patches before forking? No.
Did he post on the forum or the mailing list with suggestions for improvement before forking? No.
To me that doesn’t really sound like someone trying to be part of this community.

Btw. I consider this post by one of the xP contributors to be spam and have reported it as such. It only advertises another fork.

jnope · 2009-07-05 18:25:28

I say a thing because to my great displeasure to the discussion took a direction that I wanted, my project tipattern as I say in my first post and only presentation of a personal effort to adapt an excellent CMS for my personal needs, as I wrote in title of the post is a “hard mod” not a “fork”, originally when I started working on the code I had intent to create a parallel community and to create resources parallel maybe how often I have heard in these pages there are many people who feel they have a monopoly on a project which is declared and maintained open source, but often, the community is forced to face the decisions of these few, and this my opinion, but not only mine, the community is not a herd of sheep that must be conducted by the pastor, has a heart and intelligence of its own, so he responds after reflection in different ways, creating alternative resources, trying to deliver on other channels its voice repeatedly called into silence. My opinion is that only one of many users Txp, in my little I spent a few ‘of my time to express my idea, I have shared and made available to all and I have the conscience to listen to the views of others even if you do not agree with not placing the foot on my positions, the world of open source is based on the principle of sharing, cooperation and confrontation, especially mature and as I have said many times just on the basis of this philosophy that I have posted on relating to this forum tipattern.

I use TXP since the version 4.0.3 and I am very happy! they are conscious of the fact that Txp lacks many features that are now the norm in other similar products …

sorry my bad English …

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Gocom · 2009-07-05 19:30:43

jnope wrote:

sorry my bad English …

Ugh, p., ;, :, . and - might help.

cooperation and confrontation

Commercin own mod doesn’t really fit those lines when we compine it with along:

I had intent to create a parallel community

resources parallel

the community is not a herd of sheep that must be conducted by the pastor

even if you do not agree with not placing the foot on my positions

on relating to this forum tipattern.

Txp lacks many features

Also open source is about commiting changes to the original code base, making it better, not just taking it and the hard work of plugin authors.

Textpattern CMS

Textpattern CMS support forum

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