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#1 2008-09-05 19:16:30

driz
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From: Huddersfield, UK
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[request] Sub Sections

I really really want to see sub-sections in Txp, any chance someone can make a plugin that will allow you to select a parent section for sections? x


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#2 2008-09-05 20:25:00

the_ghost
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Re: [request] Sub Sections

Are you serious ?

Last edited by the_ghost (2008-09-05 20:42:47)


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#3 2008-09-05 20:29:40

driz
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Re: [request] Sub Sections

Yeah but I’m talking about one that adds the drop-down menu for you to choose a section parent, like you in Crokery. x


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#4 2008-09-05 21:11:13

the_ghost
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Re: [request] Sub Sections

If you follow the link or try to use forum search you’ll find some plugins for sub-sectioning. Allmost all of them (or all…) edit section-select menu at article edit page.

Or I don’t understand you?


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#5 2008-10-29 15:34:38

driz
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Re: [request] Sub Sections

Actually on the sections page, so where it says include in site search, selected by default, style etc, an additional option to choose a parent section for it, so in the url you get this. domain.com/section/sub-section1/sub-section1.1/

They have this in 4.1 Crockery (but that’s years away)

Anyone who can assist in making a plugin that will do this? All current sub-section theories are hacks or not really sub-sections, I’d just like a simple plugin that will let me choose it on the sections page.

THANKS> X


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#6 2008-10-29 15:50:18

Gocom
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Re: [request] Sub Sections

Anyone who can assist in making a plugin that will do this? All current sub-section theories are hacks or not really sub-sections, I’d just like a simple plugin that will let me choose it on the sections page.

With hacks you possibly mean modifications to the core. Well, that is because it is only way to make it work with out holes as an “real” sub sections.

Ofcourse you can do it with out hacks but then you will need new globals and tags that can use your new URL parser. TXP just can’t magically reconize your new sub-section, nor push content there, ‘cause it doesn’t yet have multi-section context relevancy.

Simplest ways:

  • Contact one of ex-devs, pay him and you will get hack that does it. It is out dated and doesn’t work but anyway.
  • Use categories as sub-sections.
  • Hire someone to do massive “real sub section”-plugin that replaces current URL functions.
  • Change CMS, cause you want “real” subsections with out hacks (read: “real sub sections” kinda require hacks to the core to keep it simple).
  • If you do that kind of plugin, it will be major dumbass rewrite/replace plugin, too huge – even hack is better than it.

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#7 2008-10-29 16:22:11

driz
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Re: [request] Sub Sections

Categories aren’t sub-sections, categories separate content, so for instance on a portfolio, you might have web, print, animation etc. Sub-sections are actual structured elements of a site. It’s such a shame Textpattern doesn’t have this :S but more gutting is that it doesn’t even seem to be recognized (by the community or devs) as something that even needs adding and has no timeframe of being added.

Textpattern kills all over CMS’ I have used, but every CMS I have used HAS sub-sections, it’s one of the most dumb-founding things ever :S


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#8 2008-10-29 16:32:03

Gocom
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Re: [request] Sub Sections

driz wrote:

as something that even needs adding and has no timeframe of being added

Remember that Textpattern is a hobby, not a real commercial project. Just a freetime driven GPL CMS.

I wouldn’t regard sub-sections being most requested feature, it just seems so (requests are transparent). Must users don’t even need it, some users don’t even need clean urls.

At work, the most asked feature to TXP have been project organizer, newletter/mass email, shopping cart and article Write like interface for forms and pages.

Last edited by Gocom (2008-10-29 16:33:28)

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#9 2008-10-29 16:58:58

driz
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Re: [request] Sub Sections

Hmm it’s something I really need for one of my projects, I’m really happy to see it in 4.1, problem is that is years away right?


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#10 2008-10-29 17:35:42

els
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Re: [request] Sub Sections

driz wrote:

…it’s something I really need

…every CMS I have used HAS sub-sections

Doesn’t look like a very hard decision to me ;)

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#11 2008-10-29 17:39:49

driz
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Re: [request] Sub Sections

Els wrote:

driz wrote:

…it’s something I really need

…every CMS I have used HAS sub-sections

Doesn’t look like a very hard decision to me ;)

p.

That’s not really useful, YES they have sub-sections but theirs loads of things they don’t! It’s like saying I really need a fast car, and choose a Ferrari, when my occupation is a builder and I need space for tools and materials. Just because their is something out their that suits your needs doesn’t make it ideal for the job. Textpattern is perfect in every way other than its section semantics.


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#12 2008-10-29 18:20:59

els
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Re: [request] Sub Sections

OK, I find that a very good reason to try and stick with Txp despite it’s shortcomings :)

Driz, do you really need ‘real’ subsections, because if it’s only about the URL scheme, gbp_permanent_links can do an awful lot.

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