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Re: Blog platforms design critique
Bloke wrote:
the first article reading “Lorem ipsum…” could perhaps be more helpful if it welcomed the user and said a few words about TXP. The first thing I clicked was View Site when I started using TXP; maybe I’m alone here.
You are perfectly right. Time to leave discussion mode and enter document mode. All, please join us here and co-author the new first article (There’s a secret you must know over there to participate: txp407. Shhh.)
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Re: Blog platforms design critique
Brilliant start, wet: that’s the ticket!
I’ll go and put my thinking trousers on…
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Re: Blog platforms design critique
wet wrote:
Time to leave discussion mode and enter document mode.
I did the same thing for Nucleus when v3.0 was released, I think it helped to make the system look polished.
Good move Wet.
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Re: Blog platforms design critique
I’ve changed the textiled links that pointed somewhere inside a TxP installation to their absolute path, so they will also work on individual article context.
"admin":/textpattern/@ instead of "admin":textpattern/Offline
Re: Blog platforms design critique
OK, what we have currently (revision 8) on the writeboard created by wet could be just the excerpted version.
The full version (the one displayed on the permalink) could have a similar content, but expanding some concepts, like a mini-how-to or micro-tutorial.
I’m thinking it as a “self-explained x-ray view” of the article.
Example
“(…) This article you are reading is rendered by a TxP form that use article tags
<h3><txp:title /></h3>
<txp:if_article_list>
<txp:excerpt />
<txp:if_article_list>
<txp:if_individual_article>
<txp:body />
</txp:if_individual_article>Simple, right?
And what about Textile? This is a chunk of the textiled article you’re currently reading:
Welcome to your site.
What do you want to do next?
* Write a new article? (...)
* Delete this (...)?
* Change this site name (...)Soon, you will love Textile. And there is no way back.”
————
So, at a quick glance, you are learning how this article was created, how does TxP to render it, without needing (yet) to move to the admin side, or the Textbook.
Whadayathink?
Last edited by maniqui (2008-05-16 16:31:05)
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Re: Blog platforms design critique
Great input guys, it’s getting there.
I fear I may have shafted it up a bit with the item on editing the page/default form (sorry uli). My brain’s turned to mush having been sat in this chair all day; someone bail me out and make it read better please :-)
Last edited by Bloke (2008-05-16 15:58:31)
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#55 2008-05-16 16:22:37
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Re: Blog platforms design critique
Bloke wrote:
(sorry uli)
de > en ;)
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re writeboard:
Is it a good idea to have links to the admin interface in the front end?
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Re: Blog platforms design critique
colak wrote:
Is it a good idea to have links to the admin interface in the front end?
If you’re not logged in, it’ll just ask for a login won’t it?
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Re: Blog platforms design critique
Bloke wrote:
If you’re not logged in, it’ll just ask for a login won’t it?
True, but will it not encourage hackers?
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Re: Blog platforms design critique
@zero,
I moved your paragraph about Textpattern First Steps to a place below, outside the “suggested task list”. I think newcomers would like to get into the admin side and start doing things (trial and error, the way to go), rather than being pointed to another tutorial to be read.
@colak
Maybe it will encourage some white hat hackers to find security holes (if any) and report them to TxP, helping fix things.
Last edited by maniqui (2008-05-16 17:07:57)
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Oh nice one Wet!
I’ve only just got home from my so-called “part-time” job and I find 2 more pages added to the thread. :)
With regard to the live site, I haven’t really been thinking in terms of some radical re-design. I think that the template is perfectly adequate. What I think needs looking at is the text itself. There’s too much of it on that front-page. Good design includes something a lot of people forget – passing out the information in chewable chunks rather than trying to stuff the whole Christmas dinner down in one go. I think you should consider what I suggested earlier about reducing the content.
As far as re-designing the template goes, I don’t think it needs touching. If, however, a re-design is on the cards then I agree with Mary that the default template in the download needs to be a simple wire-frame design, but I also believe that the live site should match that wire-frame, so any re-design of the live site should still be very, very simple.
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