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#1 2007-10-26 19:46:39

jez777
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Registered: 2007-10-26
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front end editing

Hi,

So, I just started looking around TP, haven’t installed it yet, but haven’t found this out yet.

Can an admin edit content from the front end of a site? Sorry if it’s a silly question, it’s just a feature I’d like to have and know if it’s possible/relevant before looking at the cms further.

Thanks!

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#2 2007-10-26 20:40:35

jakob
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Re: front end editing

Do you mean just mean a link on the front-end that allows you to switch to editing the infos for that page? If so maybe the plug-ins chh_admin_tags and rss_article_edit (plus maybe rss_if_author) will help achieve what you want.

If you want other users to be able to do more than simply leave comments but not allow them full access, you have a number of options:
  1. You can set up users with different levels of access to the back-end, i.e. only write articles, only draft articles etc.
  2. With the help of a plug-in mem_moderation plus optional associated plug-ins you can set up forms to allow visitors to submit information that will later be added to the database. An admin can accept, reject or modify the submissions (hence moderation).
  3. you can allow visitors to self-register using mem_self_register.
  4. with ign_password_protect you can password protect some sections of the site.

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#3 2007-10-27 01:57:27

jez777
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Re: front end editing

Thanks jakob, that’s a help. There’s not really a way to have an admin edit only from the front end, is there? Or add articles and have them automatically approved?

I’m just thinking for a client that might get confused by the control panel. It’s nice to have it so for simple things like editing and submitting content they don’t have to be bothered with it.

One other question, is there an ability to save templates as files? (I’ve got an installation going, some interesting stuff. I’m just seeing if text pattern is for me). Thanks again for the pointers. Just stuff I’m not finding right off on the plugins page.

Last edited by jez777 (2007-10-27 01:58:45)

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#4 2007-10-27 07:06:39

the_ghost
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Re: front end editing

jez777 wrote:

One other question, is there an ability to save templates as files? (I’ve got an installation going, some interesting stuff. I’m just seeing if text pattern is for me). Thanks again for the pointers. Just stuff I’m not finding right off on the plugins page.

Only copy-paste method :) Or there is some way to include you forms, templates, css, plugins into instalation, but i’m really confused – how to do it.


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#5 2007-10-27 07:58:05

iblastoff
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Registered: 2006-06-11
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Re: front end editing

yes you can save your templates/forms/pages as files. the plugin hcg_templates will let you import/export your template files essentially as a ‘theme’ if you wanted to. so you could work on you template locally, export it with the plugin, and then upload the files and import the set onto your live site and voila.

or if it works for you, you could simply install rss_db_admin_manager and it will backup/restore everything for you. so essentially you could backup your database, import it into a new textpattern installation and have everything copied over (template files/articles/even plugins you’ve installed). personally i havent had much luck with it (several bad hosting decisions on my part) but i know it works wonders for others.

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#6 2007-10-27 10:25:40

jez777
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Re: front end editing

wow, this cms is looking nice then. Thanks iblastoff

I’m just disappointed about the entry editing not being able to be done completely from the front end

Last edited by jez777 (2007-10-27 10:34:43)

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#7 2007-10-27 10:45:21

jakob
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Re: front end editing

I’m just disappointed about the entry editing not being able to be done completely from the front end

Maybe I’m not following – have you got an example of what you mean? What other CMS does that? Perhaps you mean a sort of click and edit-in-place.

That concept only works for basic pages, though. As soon as a user needs to set items such as assigning sections and categories, you’re going to have add control elements to the front-end page which a normal user doesn’t need to see. The more flexibility you add to it the more complex it becomes until you end up with a back-end on the front-end…


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#8 2007-10-27 11:26:24

jez777
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Re: front end editing

Yes, the click and edit in place is what I mean. Would that require a plugin? I’d like to be able to do that with basic pages as you say. If a user is going to get into more complex things like member administration and stuff I thinks it’s worth it for them to see the backend, but for creating articles and editing them it’s nice to have it on the front

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#9 2007-10-27 14:48:27

colak
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Re: front end editing

Pages in txp can be very simple but they can also be very complex comprising of snippets of code reusable forms textiled or html, etc. What you might have in mind is the way wikis work, not a cms.

Editing from the front end will also assume that your client learns textile. At least from the back end, they can click the ‘textile help’ (or you may wish to use the wysiwyg plugin) which will give them some guidelines.

Even if a plugin existed, the designers will face larger problems as their clients will pester them constantly to make a word bold or italic or whatever.

My advice is to install txp in your local computer and experiment with it. Any questions that may arise will most probably be answered in this forum.

Last edited by colak (2007-10-27 14:49:08)


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#10 2007-10-27 15:56:49

jez777
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Re: front end editing

the tinymce or another wysywig won’t work for front end editing?

Already, experimenting with it, but just have wonderings about how things are supposed to work :)

Last edited by jez777 (2007-10-27 15:57:27)

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#11 2007-10-27 18:49:37

colak
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Re: front end editing

Already, experimenting with it, but just have wonderings about how things are supposed to work :)

It depends what you want to acheive


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#12 2007-10-28 20:27:58

mrdale
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Registered: 2004-11-19
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Re: front end editing

rss article edit works great for my clients. I just put that link on every article form and then tell my clients… if you can see a piece of content, you can log in… click on it and edit it…

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