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#1 2007-08-18 10:39:57

maxvoltar
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How about a dedicated application...

Ok, I’m probable dreaming here, but it would be something nice to have:

I suppose (almost) every TXP-developer develops using a local copy of TXP (with the help of MAMP or XAMP). It’s just faster to work.

Now imagine you had an application where you could open multiple forms and pages at the same time in different tabs of windows. Wouldn’t that be kick-ass?

I’m posting this to start a discussion about it. Maybe we can write some specs/design some mock-ups for an app like this.

Any Cocoa dev’s inhere? :-)

Last edited by maxvoltar (2007-08-18 10:40:14)


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#2 2007-08-18 11:10:12

ruud
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Re: How about a dedicated application...

You can already open multiple instances of TXP at the same time in your browser.

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#3 2007-08-18 11:32:41

maxvoltar
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Re: How about a dedicated application...

Agree, but a native app will always feel more solid. The TXP-web interface feels a bit fragile to me if you want to work quickly.
It’s OK to edit forms or pages. But creating them isn’t exactly a party…


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#4 2007-08-18 15:35:18

iblastoff
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Re: How about a dedicated application...

when im editing pages/forms/styles i always (using FF) open each area in a new tab as i often find im changing things here and there. how would using a native app to do this feel ‘more solid’?

and what do you mean by ‘not exactly a party’ when creating forms or pages?

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#5 2007-08-18 16:14:09

Gocom
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Re: How about a dedicated application...

I think his meaning that, other active tabs won’t automatically update, when you save a form in one tab. Other tabs show the old non-updated list of forms.

But myself I don’t think it’s an any kind of problem.

Cheers!

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#6 2007-08-18 17:28:21

colak
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Re: How about a dedicated application...

maxvoltar wrote:

Now imagine you had an application where you could open multiple forms and pages at the same time in different tabs of windows. Wouldn’t that be kick-ass?

the problem is the shear number of systems and platforms. Txp users use anything from win95 – vista, OSX-OSX.4.x, linux, unix… you name it!… An application like this would be nice but i can not see it happening any time soon as the logistics are just too big.

Last edited by colak (2007-08-19 06:27:43)


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#7 2007-08-18 20:05:09

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Re: How about a dedicated application...

@zêta & delta: Live previewing form updates, no? Immediately see what you’ve changed (and the faults you made) without having to refresh a page. Opening multiple forms and pages at the same time, in an app made to do this (browsers with tabs only have “Form/Page Templates” as page title, not the name of the form/page).

@colak: That’s true. I don’t know many Windows or Linux programmers, but I know the Mac-folks are dedicated to their platform and to TXP, so a TXP-app shouldn’t be to hard to find motivation…

Other things: auto-completion of TXP-code, decent tag-wizzards (I hate pop-ups, sorry), fill the list.

Technical question: would it be possible to connect such an app to an online installation of TXP? Imagine controlling multiple sites in one application, auto-upload changes, …

Last edited by maxvoltar (2007-08-18 20:08:28)


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#8 2007-08-18 21:44:14

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Re: How about a dedicated application...

while such an app would certainly be “nice to have” for some people, i’m sure that the effort it would take could by no means be justified. the energy would be much better used on improving the current admin interface imo. you should have a look at the various workflow threads floating around in this forum. there already are quite a lot of efficient ways to work with textpattern. personally, i’m using firefox’ it’s all text extension and textmate with marios texpattern bundle — works like a charm for me.

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#9 2007-09-02 17:21:33

guiguibonbon
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Re: How about a dedicated application...

I’ve been dreaming of a textpattern version of the firefox web-dev toolbar for quite some time. Edit your css live, click save, and the new css is sent to txp. Same with pages and forms.

Another one of those dreams is to save a few versions after each change. I’ve had soo many bad surprises before, when pasting css in the wrong place, on a live site.

Last edited by guiguibonbon (2007-09-02 17:22:23)

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#10 2007-09-02 20:27:22

maxvoltar
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Re: How about a dedicated application...

@ êta: I’m using CSSEdit for all my CSS-crafting. It has live-previewing. A killer app!

Agree on the “save a few versions after each change”-thing!


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#11 2007-09-02 20:50:15

guiguibonbon
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Re: How about a dedicated application...

Yes I’ve heard about that app, but I don’t have a mac. Can it send the css to textpattern, or do you still have to copy-paste?

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#12 2007-09-03 06:19:40

maxvoltar
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Re: How about a dedicated application...

I still have to copy-paste the style-sheets… But it’s worth it when using the overwrite-function!


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