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#1 2007-03-30 15:19:34

blackhalobender
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Registered: 2007-03-30
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Textpattern For Application Development

I am searching for a tool that I can use for blog and company websites, and also for application development. EE is great for all of these but their price (240) and weird “EE is the best thing in the world,” attitude just turns me off. Fanboyism is fine for open source projects. It’s inevitable that one community is going to think they are better then another, but pMachine/EllisLabs honestly feel you should be grateful to them for purchasing their products!*

Anyway, is textpattern a viable alternative? I have installed the latest version and read through some of the documentation (which is great) but some things still vex me.

1.) The number of custom fields.
Why is this limited to 10? And can they be only assigned to specific categories? It doesn’t appear so. Maybe I am missing something.

2.) Community based features. The back end is really nice and I love that it’s separate in design from the front end. However, it’s more of an admin panel. You wouldn’t want any old user logging in to that. Has anyone been successful is creating non-admin web users that can only edit their own content and maybe a user profile?

3.) I’m not a great programmer, but if I end up choosing a non-commercial solution for all of my work I would like to get involved in the development. Maybe working on themes/plugins? Where does one start?

  • Since I have yet to find a viable alternative (drupal with cck is amazing, but completely unthemeable – what a chore!) maybe pMachine/EllisLabs attitude isn’t unfounded?

Last edited by blackhalobender (2007-03-30 15:48:18)

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#2 2007-03-30 16:27:27

hcgtv
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From: Key Largo, Florida
Registered: 2005-11-29
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Re: Textpattern For Application Development

blackhalobender wrote:

Fanboyism is fine for open source projects.

You did know that Rick had aspirations to be a Rock Star?

As for Textpattern, it’s an excellent vehicle for web development:

  • Light on disk space and server resources.
  • Small, secure code base.
  • Very extensible via plugins.

I have 9 sites running Textpattern on a 384MB VPS, hardly a sweat is broken. Putting up new sites feels like I’m dealing with static HTML, it’s that easy to work with.

As for joining in, grab it, run it, see what you’d like to improve and just do it.

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#3 2007-03-30 18:56:42

DigitalRealm
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From: Greenville, SC
Registered: 2006-07-22
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Re: Textpattern For Application Development

For 1). there, you can have more than 10 custom fields, I am currently using 18 on a site. You just have to manually go in and add them. There is a tutorial floating out there on how to do it, lemme see if I still have it.

As for the EE thing. EE is really, really good! That along with the Code Igniter framework also by Ellis Labs, is quite a powerful combo of development tools.

Also remember that paying for EE comes along with better support, better and more active upgrades, etc. Keep that in mind when paying for a commercial solution. Open source is still the way to go probably in the end, but paying money for software in the case of EE, actually warrants paying the money, does that make sense?

Last edited by DigitalRealm (2007-03-30 18:59:48)

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#4 2007-03-30 20:06:53

blackhalobender
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Re: Textpattern For Application Development

EE is really really flexible. Maybe the most. I wouldn’t say really really good. It’s custom content is inferior to cck and though its admin is fast and stable, it’s improperly organized and unintuitive. As for CI if it integrated with EE I wouldn’t be at this forum right now. I’d be coding custom apps with the speed of CI and those EE features: admin, user management, and really nice templating. My only beef with CI is that you hear “we pour so many resources in to this, you should be happy with what you got,” and the answer to every feature request is “no,” so that CI doesn’t compete with EE.

As I was trying to say before it’s not the money that I mind, id pay that in a heartbeat. It’s the closed (minded?) source mentality.

Thanks for answering that question. I’m still hunting down the other.

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#5 2007-03-31 01:20:43

Mary
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Registered: 2004-06-27
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Re: Textpattern For Application Development

  1. And no, they aren’t restricted to certain categories.
  2. How would they enter their content without somewhere to enter it? Can you elaborate?
  3. TextBook: Plugin_Development

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