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Re: Top differences of TextPattern versus WordPress?
True… you can use PHP, but it isn’t required. That’s what makes it nice for those people who don’t know PHP… and have no desire to learn it.
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#17 2006-02-20 15:18:56
- alexandra
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Re: Top differences of TextPattern versus WordPress?
I just published an article Textpattern versus Wordpress on TXP Mag. Please feel free to discuss or comment.
ps:
(well, you know i am no native english speaker so if someone feels like editing and improving the article a bit, it´ll be greatly appreciated :))
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#18 2006-02-21 02:02:45
- zem
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Re: Top differences of TextPattern versus WordPress?
>> slobizman wrote:
>> Yes, that has bothered me. You don’t always know if you can really just swap out a theme or not, without causing havoc. So, in TP,
>>you can usually count on swapping templates and not having anything blow up?
>How difficult it is to change templates?
>And, I’ve been looking around for templates in TP to see what people are doing with it, but I’ve yet to find any sites that show as many >templates as WP has themes. it’s easy to find hundreds of WP themes, but at most I’ve just seen about 20 TP templates. What’s up >with that? Have I just not found the right site?
Most TXP users are capable of making their own layout/design and choose not to go for the meme approach to templates.
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#20 2006-02-21 14:10:39
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Re: Top differences of TextPattern versus WordPress?
“Most TXP users are capable of making their own layout/design and choose not to go for the meme approach to templates.”
The meme approach to templates is important in expanding market share. For example, with me, I can modify CSS enough to change the look of a template, but I need to have a close enough match to begin with. So far at least, it’s not going to work out for me with TP, but it will with WP since there si so much many more themes to choose from to begin with.
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Re: Top differences of TextPattern versus WordPress?
Ah. So you “tweak” an existing design so that it still resembles the previous iteration, but different enough so that you can call it yours? I don’t suppose I’ll ever understand that as I like something to be mine and not just another version of the blog I visited a few minutes prior. If meme’s are your thing, I suppose WP would be ideal.
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#22 2006-02-21 15:13:48
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Re: Top differences of TextPattern versus WordPress?
> TheEric wrote:
> Ah. So you “tweak” an existing design so that it still resembles the previous iteration, but different enough so that you can call it yours? I don’t suppose I’ll ever understand that as I like something to be mine and not just another version of the blog I visited a few minutes prior. If meme’s are your thing, I suppose WP would be ideal.
No, I don’t to that just so I can call it my own. I—like thousands of others—look for a theme that has the essential elements of what I need. Then, I struggle to make changes that move it towards what will serve my purpose. That’s what people do with themes, in case you didn’t know. We can’t all be design geniuses like you. Then, of course, I put the attribution for the original theme on the page.
TheEric, you’re making TP sounding a bit elitist and I don’t think that’s what others here feel (at least I hope not).
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Re: Top differences of TextPattern versus WordPress?
My intent is not to portray any elitist sort of mentality, but genuine confusion as to why you would shun TXP simply because it has less themes available for it. I honestly don’t understand why that’s an issue? If a particular layout strikes your fancy, why can’t you simply change WP elements to TXP elements? For example, the ever-popular WP meme-theme Kubrick has been “ported” over to TXP. Why can’t any single theme you find elsewhere be as well?
Really, what WP and TXP ultimately DO isn’t all that different. I find the underlying syntax behind TXP superior, as is (imho) most everything else about TXP as compared to WP.
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Re: Top differences of TextPattern versus WordPress?
One thing I would love themes for is to easily roll out new designs. With a themes engine I could develop my new design offline create a theme out of it, upload and switch. Doing that right now is fairly cumbersome since I would have to copy and paste all my pages/forms/styles. Anyone have any tricks for this?
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#25 2006-02-21 16:24:41
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Re: Top differences of TextPattern versus WordPress?
Biggest differences from my very personal and narrow point of wiev:
- Out of the box -size.
Number of files in clean TXP or WP installation you need to upload to your server. Difference is huge.
- Server load. For this I have no actual numbers and no “scientific proof”, just that I have a strong feeling that TXP uses much less recources on the server also once it´s running. Does not necessarily matter if youre running only one installation but when you run tens of installations it matters. Thou, after upgrading my WP installations to 2.0.1 which has built in cache WP sites have been now lighter but difference still exists.
- The way of approach when you start building the site. With WP I start with sripping things out. With TXP I start with adding things. Which is a way to work I prefer.
- Wordpress can be used as CMS too. But still I feel the biggest difference would be that WP is more suitable to one who wants just to use a site with some premade theme and TXP for those who more “build” sites for them selves or for other people.
- And last but not definitely not least. TXP community. It is polite, grown up and supportive. Good community is really precious and important thing.
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Re: Top differences of TextPattern versus WordPress?
slobizman wrote:
That was really helpful.
Thanks to everyone for your help!
> alexandra wrote:
> Natalie Jost did compare TXP and WP
if i’m not mistaken, i think this article has moved to here:
http://www.standardsforlife.com/wordpress-v-textpattern
natalie has an interesting opinion. i personally am leaning towards textpattern over wordpress for an upcoming portfolio site because wordpress would only be useful for the blog section i feel. also, last time i dug deep into wordpress i frequently got frustrated cause i had this constant feeling like i was always trying to “trick” the platform into doing stuff that it was never intended to do. they probably need to rewrite the whole thing to change this stigma around it.
so although textpattern is looking a little confusing to me, it could be VERY useful in the long run for me cause it’s not as complicated as drupal, yet very flexible. i also found that whenever i made requests on the WP forum i got nothing. maybe that has a lot to do with the actual forum code they’re using which isn’t very sticky(it’s almost like myspace’s quality). well the comments about the txp forum being helpful is definitely reassuring to me if i’m going to spend a lot of time learning this program.Offline
Re: Top differences of TextPattern versus WordPress?
Also….I find the fact that wordpress’s functions work as they do. They are nowhere near as clean as using the xml style txp tags in textpattern. And I cannot believe that they take a get string looking argument to feed in the options. Who does that?!
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