Ubuntu 6.06 LTS

hcgtv · 2006-08-08 22:27:09

NyteOwl,

Maybe the ISO was bad?

Check out this Ubuntu Wiki page for more info. I know many users have Ubuntu running fine on their Thinkpads from what I’ve read on their forums.

net-carver,

Glad to hear things are going good. The install is actually easier and faster than Windows XP, from my past experiences.

Sencer · 2006-08-08 22:34:12

NyteOwl wrote:

Hmm I tried the Ubuntu Live CD on my Thinkpad and it totally bombed out. I’ll try a different one but so far nada.

It’s interesting, I’ve heard plenty of reports from thinkpad users and it seems to be divided evenly between “almost everything works” and “didn’t boot/didn’t run/didn’t work at all”. I guss it must depend on the specific model and hardware. Here is a positive report from a thinkpad user:
http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/007148.html

net-carver · 2006-08-12 17:43:45

A little more feedback on my journey into linux courtesy of Ubuntu…

After suitable backups being taken and a think through how the hard-drive was to be configured, the initial installation itself was a breeze. The ubuntu disk partitioner is very good and grub installation was spot-on, giving me a dual booting Aspire on the first attempt. Hardware worked, even the power management — something that XP failed to do on this machine.

My initial problem came with a twenty second timeout in the DNS lookups. That’s a long time to wait before a web client even starts it’s conversation with the server. Turns out that there is an IPV6 stack installed by default, that’s ok if you have an IPV6 router and service provider but if you haven’t it can cause some serious delays as the DNS queries are resolved on that stack before it tries the older v4 stack, hence the delay in my setup. After some false starts, google finally turned up the solution. Editing /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, I change the line that reads alias net-pf-10 ipv6 to alias net-pf-10 off ipv6 and a quick reboot fixed the problem.

There were some other hurdles to get over with the differences between rights/permissions between XP and linux but that hasn’t taken long.

Package management is very good but slow connection speeds to some of the repositories, even on DSL, made for some looooong downloads — on the other hand, some repos seemed to fly.

My biggest hurdles were …

20 second IPV6 stack timeout on every DNS query.
Slow connection speeds to the repositories.
not knowing about the multiverse (and other) repositories!
getting apache running properly with mod_rewrite.<br />Mark Stone covers the needed bits in his posts in this thread but I found the critical one on my setup was having the “AllowOverride All” in the virtual hosts <directory> section, the other commented out lines at the top of the TxP .htaccess were not needed after I fixed that.
finding suitable replacements for some XP apps (editor, svn client, merge tool).<br />Specifically, the install of Sun’s JVM so that I could get JEdit running — argh, it took some time crawling through forum posts suggested by google to find out how to do it.

Most of the problems I have encountered are partly due to my wanting to get a PHP dev environment working for TxP plugin work — otherwise a straight install would have covered almost all of what I wanted.

maniqui · 2006-09-29 18:35:49

Well… here I am, running Ubuntu 6.06!
I used to have 4.9 and 5.10, but never really switched to them.
Now, it’s time to make a step fordward and try to learn many new things.

I want to learn:

how to program in PHP
things about MySQL
install and configure an Apache server
develope and work offline with TxP and then upload what I have done.
learn how to test svn versions of TxP and have it up-to-date
test new scripts offline

My idea is to learn programming in PHP/MySQL by reading a manual and by looking at how Textpattern has been made.
Do you think it’s a good way to learn that language?

I’m very anxious to start learning this things and many others too.
I would appreciate your advices.

hcgtv · 2006-09-29 20:54:03

maniqui, you’re going about it in a good way, this will give you more of an under-the-hood feel than what you may experience on a Windows box.

First begin by getting your environment in order, Apache, MySQL and PHP.
When you feel good, install Textpattern on the local server and start playing around.
Then try out the different text editors, gedit is nice and does syntax highlighting but it’s just one of many.

As a first tip, give your machine a static ip and a hostname. This way from your internal network, you can test your sites from other machines by adding the ip and hostname to their hosts file.

Use an ip out of the DHCP range, so if your router uses DHCP addresses of 192.168.1.100, use something like 192.168.1.20 for your machine.
Pick a domain name you like and name each machine in your network, like ubuntu.maniqui.com. Don’t worry if it’s not a valid domain name, or if it’s already being used, it’s your own network. You should see the fun you can have by playing with someone’s hosts file and putting up a fake CNN page on your server :)

And remember, Google is your friend ;)

maniqui · 2006-10-05 19:45:45

hi hcgtv. I know you were going to answer me! thanks, man!

thanks for your tips. I haven’t done anything productive (like installing Apache, MySQL and PHP) yet! :D

I just have reinstalled Ubuntu (I’m a bit obsesive with tuning and tweaking the system and that’s a big distraction that keep me away from starting to learn the things I should start to learn… grrrrr… it’s hard to fight against myself).

I didn’t get the tip of using an ip out of the range…
My wi-fi network is actually configured this way:

Router IP: 10.0.0.1
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
My machine IP: 10.0.0.133

But well… I will leave that for future, because I’m still in “tuning system mode”…

hcgtv · 2006-10-05 20:50:49

maniqui wrote:

I didn’t get the tip of using an ip out of the range…
My wi-fi network is actually configured this way:
Router IP: 10.0.0.1
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
My machine IP: 10.0.0.133

If 10.0.0.133 is served from a DHCP table, it could end up being different next week. Since DHCP leases end up expiring, another laptop in your house could grab your IP address.

If you create a static IP, let’s say 10.0.0.20, it will always be the same, no matter what. Then on your other machines, you could add your machine to the hosts file and gain access to it.

For WinXP: C:\Windows\systems32\drivers\etc\hosts

10.0.0.1 router.maniqui.com
10.0.0.20 ubuntu.maniqui.com

maniqui · 2006-10-05 21:23:45

hi hcgtv.

I always use static IP address.
I asked because i didnt understand why it had to be out of the range of the router, but now, I think I understand.

Going back to this migration… I have some “internal” dilemmas:

I want to share my Thunderbird profile among Ubuntu and WinXP. Right now, the profile is in an NTFS partition.
Now, I have three options:

move the profile to a “bridge partition” in FAT32 (readable/writeable from both systems).
keep it in the NTFS partition and use the ntfs-3g driver to read and write from Linux.
move it to a Ext3 partition and use the FS Driver to write on it from Windows

I hate to have all this options! :D
I can’t decide…

Another question: do you ever tried to run a WinXP image in a virtual machine on Ubuntu?

hcgtv · 2006-10-05 21:30:06

maniqui wrote:

move the profile to a “bridge partition” in FAT32 (readable/writeable from both systems).

This is the best option, it’s worked for me very well.

maniqui wrote:

Another question: do you ever tried to run a WinXP image in a virtual machine on Ubuntu?

No I haven’t but I’m leaning towards this for the future, beats having to dual boot.

maniqui · 2006-10-08 05:12:43

hi.

Anyone with Ubuntu and Firefox…
please, visit this site: http://www.heffernans.ie/ and please, tell me if you see the last option (“Contact”) of the main menu in a new line (= below “Home”). (Site is not mine, I just using it as an example of what is happening)

I have seen it in FF (Win) and it looks as spected (the “Contact” link at the end of the horizontal menu)

I dont know why my FF (Linux) is rendering it in a different way.
I have notice something similar in other site but I cant remember which one…

Of course, the text-size in Firefox is set to normal…

Thanks.

hcgtv · 2006-10-08 05:31:07

maniqui wrote:

Anyone with Ubuntu and Firefox…

Debian Etch, Gnome 2.14.3 (08/08/2006)
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060830 Firefox/1.5.0.7 (Debian-1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-1)

Looks fine to me, exactly like it does in Windows. I’m using Bitstream fonts in Firefox on Linux, they seem to work rather well in rendering pages.

maniqui · 2006-10-08 15:46:22

Here:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060921 Ubuntu/dapper-security Firefox/1.5.0.7

And now, I have installed Opera 9.02 and it has the same “problem” for me.
The font sizes seems to be fine for the site, but it just breaks in the main menu.

I have installed IEs4Linux and the site looks well there.

I cant figure out what could be happening…

Sencer · 2006-10-26 08:03:16

Maybe it’s worth a new topic, but there’s been some good opinions collected here, so I’ll just tack it on here for now:

Today is the scheduled release of the new Ubuntu Release: 6.10 Edgy Eft. :)

While a lot of the changes are under the hood, there’s also Firefox2, newer version of Gnome, a new Kernel and some other updated stuff. The better boot-up time is one of the things that look interesting me.

http://news.com.com/Ubuntu+update+is+Edgy+on+boot+speed/2100-1012_3-6129594.html?tag=nefd.top

I’ll probably wait a week or two before the upgrade, in case some odd things do turn out, but I am pretty sure I am going to do it.

Last edited by Sencer (2006-10-26 08:03:35)

maniqui · 2006-10-26 15:11:18

Suave!

I was about to reinstall Ubuntu 6.06 (I’m a bit obsesive and I couldn’t fix the “problem” I have with Firefox, see post above) but now, I will install and try this new release…

I thought that new releases of Ubuntu come out after 18 months… Don’t know why I thought that…

Well.. just more dispersion and yet, I haven’t started to learn how to set an LAMP environment and learn PHP.

hcgtv · 2006-10-26 15:20:00

maniqui wrote:

Well.. just more dispersion and yet, I haven’t started to learn how to set an LAMP environment and learn PHP.

Welcome to the world of Linux ;)

I’ll upgrade to Edgy Eft today, hopefully the mirrors won’t be too busy. I was already running a lot of the newer stuff when I was running Debian Sid on my workstation, let’s see what Ubuntu does with it.

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