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#1 2006-07-23 21:17:51

hakjoon
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[wiki] Tutorials Section in Textbook

My understanding was that the tutorials section of Textbook was intended to house tutorials that live inside textbook. However I get a decent number of emails from users wanting accounts because they think they need an account to see the tutorials (which currently don’t exist).

I wonder if for now we would want to have that page point to a list of tutorials that currently exist. At least some of the tutorials available from the resources site As new users go to textbook as the documentation source it would make sense to duplicate the information.

I also would love to steer people to Destry’s excellent Building Blocks series.


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#2 2006-07-23 23:06:55

hcgtv
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Re: [wiki] Tutorials Section in Textbook

Destry’s Building Blocks are an excellent introduction to the layout of Textpattern as are Zem’s plugin tutorials for would be developers.

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#3 2006-07-24 18:18:33

Destry
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Re: [wiki] Tutorials Section in Textbook

Ah, I’m working on something about this now. That bit about Mark’s articles (and others, hopefully) has been moved to an Article Contributions page, which just seems like a more logical title for that area of activity.

The Tutorials page was added once back in time because someone suggested we have it. I addeded it, but as expected nobody did anything with it. But you are right, Pat, we need some blunts…er…tutes in there. Since history has shown that horses were not stomping in the starting gates, I’ve taken it upon myself to provide a bit of thinking and foundation for would be tooters to get tooting. See the Tutorials page for latest brainstorming.

I like the idea about bridging the resources tutes withTxB, but I would rather like to see those tutes get properly written into TextBook where they are open to more writers (and thus editing), as well as translation. Not to mention just easier to find.

Furthermore, I strongly feel the resources site should be nothing but a proper Plugins database, but even there it lacks in several respects, which is why I favor the current plugin archive process in TxB, which not only safeguards plugin files, but again, opens the docs up for internationalization and expansion by more people (oh how many times have I read how hard a plugin author’s docs are to understand…102, 103, 104…)

As usual, feedback is welcome.

EDIT: Oh, as a plug for the Tutorials effort, I’m wondering what worth there would be to have a feed of sorts in that page that allowed conributing authors to get a feed of their own work back to their Web site. Hmmm, for that matter, why not go the other way too, from Weblog to wiki? I wouldn’t know where to begin but I’d help where I could if it had merit.

Last edited by Destry (2006-07-24 19:10:41)

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#4 2006-07-24 18:36:15

Destry
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Re: [wiki] Tutorials Section in Textbook

Oh speaking of my articles. They’ve been linked in the references section of the Textpattern Semantics page since they were published, and judging from the great many hits those articles get on a daily basis, many of which are referrers from the wiki, I’d say their getting some looks even there, but yeah, another more prominant position might be good.

As Mark (Remillard) and I have discussed recently, moving long articles like his and mine to the wiki is a bit hard with the differences of syntax, and personally I just won’t be doing that. A LOT of work and time goes into writing my articles and I only have the gusto to do it once. However, I would like to offer my articles up for being translated, but only if they are translated in the wiki, not on peoples personal Weblogs. I think I gave Andreas permission for one of mine to do in German, but that would be the exception at this point. I would like to see all other translations done in TextBook International. (Oh, and sorry, French is off limits as I intend to publish in two languages at wion.com, sooner or later, that being English and French, of course.)

This internationalization of author articles is another focus for the Article Contributions page and could be handled exactly like the wiki’s translation efforts for the Txp FAQs.

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