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Re: Cosmetic Surgery
Mary, Its neatly done. The navigation is very well done and structured. The logout link is finally in the place where it belongs.
The only thing which i dislike personally is the yellow-orange gradient on top. I think it should be a solid colour. And I also agree with skubidu about the size of the textpattern logo. It should reduce drastically.
Good job otherwise!
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Hi Mary
Like the feel but does this mean that the pull down menu will be taken out?
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Like it, too.
The smaller TXP by Skubidu is better, i think.
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I like Alexandra’s suggestion…
Keeping the colors more related to the actual admin look & feel… that would be nice.
Maybe, after a second look, I see the facelift makes it more similar to other products I have seen (like MODx) and that I dont like too much as the TXP actual admin.
Anyway, I have no doubt that we all be amazed by new style and features… :D
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Happy for a change, and one with cleaner lines, and what seems to be better usability.
and can we have Mary’s new Avatar replace the old logo? I think it really sums up TXP well? :P
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This might be off-topic, but, how is the output of the admin section generated? Where would one start if they were to completely retool the admin area sans tables?
BTW, The changes look great.
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jbhis8up,
It is a little off topic, would you mind asking in the “how do I forum”? Thanks.
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Mary, whatever you do it’s fine!
By the way, I love your site.
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oh, yipeee. Looks super duper nice! Agree on the slightly tamer yellow, though.
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From what I see with respect to aesthetic enhancements, Mary, this is great, and I love orange (any shade) so the color doesn’t bother me at all (I’m assuming it’s customizable anyway?).
The admin side — as is — has been in need for version x.0 for a long time, even outside watchers/reviewers of Txp have commented on this repeatedly, but that’s not news to anyone. Unlike some of the … someone used a great metaphor …“fruit-striped” candy themes we’ve been seeing proposed around the boards, this one above is (in my opinion) just change enough while retaining the old sense of style. A true version 2.0, as it were; nothing radical, just an improvement that shows that the admin side is not forgotten.
Most opinions from the experienced forum rats about what should or should not be with the admin side are rather self-centric; that is to say they are from the point of view of how they like Txp for themselves. For my own use, I have no problems with it the way it is. I know it, I’m familiar with it. It works. If nothing ever changed, that’s fine with me.
However, there’s another viewpoint…that of the yet-to-be end-user (such as my future clients, among others). From a workflow or panel presentation point of view, I think a number of changes are warranted. It’s still quite daunting for me to write user docs because there is so much I often have to downplay in each panel; features my user’s will never need to worry about. Yet since it’s right there in their face, and since I want to avoid all the millions of questions I get otherwise, I have to document stuff about what they don’t need to begin with. This suggests something needs done with how certain panels are presented. Actually, presentation in itself is not the issue, the rats can (and have) given countless opinions on that already. Rather what is needed is a presentation per stage of task kind of revamp; this is quite possibly the real formula for success.
In that respect, I like some of the ideas Ace of Dubs is getting at with showing elements based on a particular step in workflow, say writing an article, for example.
Having said all that, it’s not easy, I know. Textpattern is still trying to find what audience it really serves (techies versus non-techies), and that forward look is really what should influence design decisions; i.e., not us rats who can hack whatever we want, but the real target audience who just wants to publish articles, photographs, and files. Yes, yes, people, you can argue that Txp is for the masses already, but it’s largey a subjective opinion; we’ve seen it written time and again that many people find Txp difficult to use. They don’t just say that because they have nothing better to do.
Speaking for myself, I’m looking forward — and very excited — to see whatever changes are made, as I know it will be a step in the right direction…as your screenshot up there suggests.
Yeah TeamTextpattern!
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Destry wrote:
Rather what is needed is a presentation per stage of task kind of revamp; this is quite possibly the real formula for success.
I hate interfaces like that. You only need the hand holding for so long and then it becomes a nuisance. I can appreciate the need for it when dealing with new users but if it does go in it better be something that can be turned off.
I don’t think the admin interface will ever be able to be everything to all people. The ability to over write the built in admin pages would open up all sorts of possibilities as people could devise interfaces that meet their needs. That too me is the road to success. Probably something that will come with Bannister. Or maybe Admin plugins can be extended to allow that.
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Good points all, hakjoon. I agree and stand corrected. I think those ideas about individual customizations is the real key for the long road. Like you, I’m sure they’ve taken that into consideration, with bannister and all; that’s still a blip off my radar.
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Mary wrote:
That yellow looks a little strong and slightly to….umm….shiny-ish? :P
Otherwise, I like it. Make sure you get rid of that Javascript stuff. It’s a little annoying.
alexandra wrote:
I don’t really like this design. Looks too 2000-ish. The current design by Mary is nice. Just as I said, tone down the yellow and it would look nice and up-to-date.
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