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IE 6 and 7...side-by-side?
Anyone tried this method yet? Or John Galloway’s method?
Another approach appears to be to just install IE7 and let it overwrite 6, then go to evolt’s browser archive’s and grab a 6-standalone, which you can then install free and clear of your new 7 default.
I kind of have a favoring for the last method (as I have no need for 6 other than testing anyway), but no, I havn’t tried any of these yet; just wondering if anyone has and if all is well.
EDIT: And just to be clear, it’s the ie7 beta 2 preview released on March 20, obviously.
Last edited by Destry (2006-03-25 17:31:36)
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#2 2006-03-25 17:28:08
- Mary
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Re: IE 6 and 7...side-by-side?
Originally I quickly had it up and running, but then SP2 of WinXP appeared to kill it, I couldn’t get it to work anymore (crashing, etc).
Just a couple days ago, I tried again, having installed 7 Beta over IE 6, and grabbed the nice standalone copies (make sure you grab the standalone, and not the full setup) and it works again, with no hacks.
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Re: IE 6 and 7...side-by-side?
I think that’s what I’ll do then.
Good catch on the link. ;)
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Re: IE 6 and 7...side-by-side?
Anyone know if conditional comments will work with these standalone ones? I know they didn’t with the original standalones for IE5 and IE5.5.
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Re: IE 6 and 7...side-by-side?
Good question, hakjoon, and now that gives me reason to pause. Although I haven’t been able to find an answer yet, apparently there is a method for reverting back to default ie6 from ie7 (though I haven’t tried it) if you happen to have overwritten the default install of ie6.
At everyone/In general: The whole conditional thing is rather important, as what was once hacks (if you used them) to cater to ie5 will now effect ie7 too, so conditionals and extra style sheets (or Tantek’s filters and extra stylesheets) may be necesseary for you depending on scope/objectives of a given project (or any sites you have already built).
A good article at SitePoint concisely covers the conditional concepts, for those who want up to speed.
Last edited by Destry (2006-03-26 11:07:07)
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Re: IE 6 and 7...side-by-side?
hakjoon wrote:
Anyone know if conditional comments will work with these standalone ones? I know they didn’t with the original standalones for IE5 and IE5.5.
ALL EDITED:
Although this article at mezzoblue seems to suggest differently, according to this article at Position is Everything, and this comment at Galloway’s joint, it looks like getting conditionals to work in standalones of ie5 through 6 is possible.
I guess it’s up in the air until shown for certain.
To make matters worse, judging from that interview at mezzoblue, it’s possible that Vista — Microsofts new OS — may not even support multiple standalones of IE on one machine at all (not without Virtual PCs). The words, if I understood the situation right, were… “can’t guarantee it’ll work on Vista.”
Last edited by Destry (2006-03-27 10:41:48)
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Re: IE 6 and 7...side-by-side?
Upon closer inspection of Taming Your Multiple IE Standalones by Manfred Staudinger,… <em>” most of the conditional comment behaviors may be restored to the standalones by performing a simple one time edit to your registry. It consists only of renaming a particular key, which currently says IE, so that it says zIE. “</em> See article section titled Repairing Conditional Comments for full details. In fact that whole article is quite insightful.
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#8 2006-03-29 19:45:50
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Re: IE 6 and 7...side-by-side?
I did just that – got conditional comments to work with the instructions in that Position is Everything article – and it works fine, passes the Conditional Comments tests. :)
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#9 2006-03-30 22:20:59
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Re: IE 6 and 7...side-by-side?
Has anyone tried <a href=“http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/”>this script?</a>
What it does is install ie5, ie5.5 and ie6 onto a linux distro, which requires both wine and cabextract (this is used only for installing ie). Setup was painless, though it did take some time to download all the resources it needed, which was about 120MB for the full installation (ie6, 5.5, 5 plus flash 8 for all three). I had more trouble setting up wine the first time.
I’ve recently set it all up and it seems to work, even conditional comments (for all three, since each is technically a separate installation). It passed the PIE comments test. Heck, it even tried to do a windows update for me. That’s all I need, MS invading my linux box. :)
Just thought I’d give a heads up to any linux users that didn’t know about this.
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Re: IE 6 and 7...side-by-side?
I’m following this whole multiple standalones/conditional comments/IE 7 thing closely these days so if anyone has odd experiences or insights, please post them.
Here’s one to add with regard to standalone conflicts between 5.5 and 7.
Somebody else in that thread mentions something about a standalone of IE 6 going buggy (as if it wasn’t already), what do you think they mean, quirks mode?
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#11 2006-04-06 00:45:29
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Re: IE 6 and 7...side-by-side?
IE6 has a quirks mode and standards mode. If quirks mode gets triggered, then IE6 will continue to use the old IE box model, as well as not support various parts of CSS2.
I haven’t had a problem with this yet.
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Re: IE 6 and 7...side-by-side?
In case you haven’t see it, IE7 is now in lockdown (apparently it wasn’t a few months back like everyone thought), and some 200 issues have been addressed:
- The WaSP announcement: IE7: the list is in
- The IEBlog article that started it: Details on our CSS changes for IE7
Two wonderful things that stand out in the IEBlog article:
- Min/max width/height support (also for images, which did not work in IE7b2) Now that’s a nice last minute change.
- All bugs on positioniseverything.net except the “escaping floats” bug (which is planned for the future). The real cherry here is the parenthetical note. We knew it wasn’t going to be in lockdown, but it appears we won’t have to wait for IE8 before it becomes a reality (who knows).
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