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#1 2006-03-01 15:25:31

hcgtv
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From: Key Largo, Florida
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Testing for newbies

To make it easier for more people to get involved in testing, it would help tremendously if the developers could give us an aspect to test.

Let’s say a certain system file is changed and a developer knows that it affects article entry. He or she can post on this forum a heads up post for us testers to take article entry through it’s paces.

It may seem like more work for the developer, committ the change, describe the change on SVN and also post something on this forum but it would get more testers involved.

Does this sound feasible?

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#2 2006-03-01 20:38:27

wet
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Re: Testing for newbies

I beg to differ.

Anybody interested in testing will / should read Trac and have an understanding of what the commits are trying to achieve. If that’s not the case, it would be more reasonable from a developers POV to add more verbose commit comments to let others read his thoughts.

I’ve picked things out of the latest revision which appealed to me in one way or the other (I had an itch to scratch, mostly) and dragged them over my test site, and wouldn’t expect to change my behaviour if every developer’s move is duplicated in the forum. IMHO, this just adds noise.

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#3 2006-03-01 21:43:21

hcgtv
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Re: Testing for newbies

Maybe more verbose comments would help, like you suggest.

For those new to testing, we can’t know what a change implicates.

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#4 2006-03-01 23:04:50

zem
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Re: Testing for newbies

There are already plenty of barriers to checking in code; adding more means fewer updates.

Checkin comments might be terse, but I think they’re accurate and clear enough for the target audience: people who know Textpattern well, and have some familiarity with its history and general design. You can always get more detail by checking the changeset.


Alex

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#5 2006-03-02 00:17:07

Mary
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Re: Testing for newbies

> “It may seem like more work for the developer…”

That’s ‘cuz it is. ;) Testing isn’t for newbs anyway.

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#6 2006-03-02 00:28:47

hcgtv
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Re: Testing for newbies

> mary wrote:

> That’s ‘cuz it is. ;) Testing isn’t for newbs anyway.

I think my post has been misconstrued somehow.

My reference is to newbies to Textpattern testing, not newbies to PHP or can’t find their way around a server.

I’ll make do with Trac and SVN comments ;)

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#7 2006-03-02 01:13:38

Mary
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Re: Testing for newbies

Ah, now I gotcha.

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#8 2006-03-02 05:11:40

wet
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Re: Testing for newbies

> zem wrote:

You can always get more detail by checking the changeset.

To be continued…

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