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#1 2019-10-01 21:42:30

jakob
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EU Judgement: Storing cookies requires internet users’ active consent

A broadside for all those sites that assume cookie consent first and give the user the option to switch off rather than asking for consent: notice from the EU Court of Justice (PDF).


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#2 2019-10-01 22:26:11

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Re: EU Judgement: Storing cookies requires internet users’ active consent

Good ! Hopefully this will propagate worldwide so that we can enjoy it as well. And hopefully, we are talking about a broad definition of “cookies”, e.g including localstorage and the like.

I’m tired of having to clear the gigabytes worth of cookies to clear up disk space (</snark>).

Thank you for flagging this.

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#3 2019-10-02 12:49:32

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Re: EU Judgement: Storing cookies requires internet users’ active consent

jakob wrote #319469:

A broadside for all those sites that assume cookie consent first and give the user the option to switch off rather than asking for consent: notice from the EU Court of Justice (PDF).

So the way I set it up on Patetech.

If the user accepts cookies, they get cookies and the pop-up goes away forever.

If the user never does anything, they never get cookies but the pop-up is always there.

If the user declines cookies, they don’t get cookies – except for one to make the pop-up go away. Which I thought was allowed under the Technical Cookie Exemption.

Now I am not so sure.

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#4 2019-10-02 12:55:40

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Re: EU Judgement: Storing cookies requires internet users’ active consent

michaelkpate wrote #319491:

So the way I set it up on Patetech

That’s what I do too and I think that’s acceptable. I also offer a way in the data protection details / disclaimer to reverse the decision if desired.

Another option is responding automatically to DoNotTrack, for example using jQuery cookie bar so that cookies are automatically declined. However, it looks very much like DNT is being mostly phased out :-(


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#5 2019-10-02 14:04:02

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Re: EU Judgement: Storing cookies requires internet users’ active consent

jakob wrote #319492:

That’s what I do too and I think that’s acceptable. I also offer a way in the data protection details / disclaimer to reverse the decision if desired.

Is there a way to just have a link which can delete the cookies already accepted from the domain?


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#6 2019-10-02 14:21:13

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Re: EU Judgement: Storing cookies requires internet users’ active consent

colak wrote #319494:

Is there a way to just have a link which can delete the cookies already accepted from the domain?

Some JS way?

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#7 2019-10-02 15:36:18

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Re: EU Judgement: Storing cookies requires internet users’ active consent

jakob wrote #319492:

That’s what I do too and I think that’s acceptable. I also offer a way in the data protection details / disclaimer to reverse the decision if desired.

Another option is responding automatically to DoNotTrack, for example using jQuery cookie bar so that cookies are automatically declined. However, it looks very much like DNT is being mostly phased out :-(

I hadn’t thought of that. Here is some javascript code to detect whether it is turned on or not (Coincidentally, I know Corbin as a writer for Android Police). I need to incorporate this in to the next version – If DNT is turned on, you will never see the pop-up.

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#8 2019-10-02 15:50:47

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Re: EU Judgement: Storing cookies requires internet users’ active consent

colak wrote #319494:

Is there a way to just have a link which can delete the cookies already accepted from the domain?

My modified version of jQuery cookiebar script has a way to decline the previously accepted cookie (i.e. you know it’s name). That’s described here. On the privacy policy page, I have a block where it shows the current status (You have accepted / declined cookies) and has a button allowing you to reverse that decision.

michaelkpate wrote #319504:

I need to incorporate this in to the next version – If DNT is turned on, you will never see the pop-up.

Again, with my modified version of jQuery cookiebar, that’s described here. In the ‘automatic’ mode it simply shows a message on first visit, e.g. _ Your ‘Do Not Track’ browser settings were recognized. Tracking cookies will not be set._ and defaults to decline, but you can also check manually.


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#9 2019-10-02 17:07:59

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Re: EU Judgement: Storing cookies requires internet users’ active consent

etc wrote #319496:

Some JS way?

jakob wrote #319506:

My modified version of jQuery cookiebar script has a way to decline the previously accepted cookie (i.e. you know it’s name). That’s described here. On the privacy policy page, I have a block where it shows the current status (You have accepted / declined cookies) and has a button allowing you to reverse that decision.

Thanks so much guys. I’m currently having a look at both.


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#10 2019-10-03 08:44:10

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Re: EU Judgement: Storing cookies requires internet users’ active consent

jakob wrote #319492:

That’s what I do too and I think that’s acceptable. I also offer a way in the data protection details / disclaimer to reverse the decision if desired.

I have a similar understanding of this – but I’m not a lawyer. Based on the court ruling, as long as no cookies are set before any user action, you should be OK. It is probably OK to set a session (?) cookie for those that refuse all cookies (to make the cookie overlay/warning/… go away while they walk around the site).

The suggestion to have a delete button on the privacy / tracking page is a good one.

[…]However, it looks very much like DNT is being mostly phased out :-(

Yes, DNT is gone from Safari 13, and if I’m not wrong, it will be removed from Firefox – based on some long lost tweeeter convo between WebKit and Firefox engineers. Does Chromium / Chrome ever supported it? Individual ports might, though. (google properties stomp on DNT).

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