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#1 2013-09-17 20:49:48

thebombsite
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[howto] Random, Full-screen Background Images With No Script

Once I get started on this stuff….


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#2 2013-09-18 08:21:02

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Re: [howto] Random, Full-screen Background Images With No Script

The only disadvantage of this method for me is that I don’t like having style graphics in the “Image” tab.

I have to say that I agree with you here. Now that I have worked up my own personal site and started using images as both design elements, content to feature with individual articles and for lists, I think Textpattern’s management of images is a bit cumbersome. Don’t get me wrong, with a few good plugins I have developed my own workflow for managing images and inserting them in the right places. I just think that image management feels unwieldy straight out of the box.

Of course, given Textpattern’s other features I can live with that!

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#3 2013-09-18 08:38:15

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Re: [howto] Random, Full-screen Background Images With No Script

aslsw66 wrote:

Textpattern’s management of images is a bit cumbersome

Hear hear! But now we have a pretty solid grid layout in the core themes, some API improvements and the beginnings of some AJAX goodness, I’m sure we’ll be able to rustle up some image workflow improvements in the core UI. Just gotta make some time to sit down and tinker with it.

EDIT: btw, nice work on the tutorials, Stuart.

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#4 2013-09-18 09:56:48

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Re: [howto] Random, Full-screen Background Images With No Script

Thanks to both. Actually I am quite happy with the “Images” tab the way it is, I just don’t like having design images in there and for my own site I would simply avoid the situation but when a client is as gorgeous as that (and I don’t just mean her looks but you can see her in my galleries) and, more importantly, a very good friend, I deliver what she wants. ;)

And naturally if others can benefit from my “how to” I am more than happy to share.

Maybe there should be a second “Images” tab or maybe “Graphics” tab in the “Presentation” block? One where the images can’t be called with the <txp:image /> or <txp:images /> tag. No database entries. No connection to Textpattern whatsoever really. Just an upload and storage facility. Don’t number them either. Just retain the image name so if you upload an image of the same name it simply overwrites the existing one (with a warning) which is what is most likely required anyway. Images could only be called via the CSS or using a full HTML <img /> tag if they were needed in an article.

I would have thought that would be pretty simple for a man of your many talents Stef. ;)

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#5 2013-09-18 17:28:38

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Re: [howto] Random, Full-screen Background Images With No Script

thebombsite wrote:

Maybe there should be a second “Images” tab or maybe “Graphics” tab in the “Presentation” block? One where the images can’t be called with the <txp:image /> or <txp:images /> tag. No database entries. No connection to Textpattern whatsoever really. Just an upload and storage facility. Don’t number them either. Just retain the image name so if you upload an image of the same name it simply overwrites the existing one (with a warning) which is what is most likely required anyway. Images could only be called via the CSS or using a full HTML <img /> tag if they were needed in an article.

Isn’t that called “FTP”? :P

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#6 2013-09-18 17:35:36

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Re: [howto] Random, Full-screen Background Images With No Script

Yes, indeed it is Mike and as I say, I am quite happy using it but there are some who would rather not get involved with all this FTP technical stuff. ;)


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#7 2013-09-18 18:36:05

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Re: [howto] Random, Full-screen Background Images With No Script

;d

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#8 2013-09-19 10:19:04

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Re: [howto] Random, Full-screen Background Images With No Script

Isn’t that called “FTP”? :P

Ah yes, but then the same argument could be made for uploading CSS as well!

Textpattern does a really good job of keep content and presentation separate except for images and files. These are two types of ‘files’ which can be both content and used for presentation purposes. Some of Stef’s AJAX goodness should at least make it easier to quickly sort through and find the right images for the right purpose.

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#9 2013-09-19 11:20:19

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Re: [howto] Random, Full-screen Background Images With No Script

Textpattern itself is complicated and technical. If you don’t want to use FTP, you seriously will not want to use Textpattern either when the new-excitement rush calms down.

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#10 2013-09-19 13:17:16

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Re: [howto] Random, Full-screen Background Images With No Script

Textpattern itself is complicated and technical.

Actually, I find that to be the opposite. Here at work there are a bunch of sites built around WordPress and I share an office with the guy responsible for keeping it all going. Although I’m now an accountant, he knows that I was a web developer in a previous life and sometimes ask for help. One look at the admin side of WP and I have no idea what’s going on. The appeal for me was always that Textpattern is so clean and ‘lightweight’ ie. it doesn’t impose itself on what I’m trying to do.

I was going to say that I hardly ever touch FTP… but now I think about it, I reworked my site using Bootstrap. To make it easier to maintain all of the relative links in CSS files etc, I just uploaded all of the Bootstrap files to my site. Why don’t I just do the same with the images used for design purposes only? It’s not like I’m going to touch them again in a hurry and it means that the images access through Textpattern are just for content purposes.

So, in a roundabout way this thread has got me back to a level of content vs presentation separation that I can work with. And again, this is why Textpattern is so great – it doesn’t force you to use a single working method, but let’s you find something that you’re comfortable with and go for it.

Now I know what I’m going to do this evening …

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