[mention] 2011 WaterAndStone CMS Market Share Report Results

maruchan · 2011-12-02 01:02:15

And if we do some redirecting of the redundant domain names (also talked about before), e.g.,…

textpattern.net -> docs.textpattern.com
textpattern.org -> plugins.textpattern.com
…then we do one better.

Ah, that would be icing on the cake.

wet · 2011-12-02 05:59:25

lazlo wrote:

…a link to the forums

Good point. Done.

…maybe even a see more button/link that shows the last 100 or last day/week in that beautiful format.

Here’s the forum stream in a very beautiful format ;)

Gocom · 2011-12-02 07:50:30

Robert, that’s very nice. Helps to notice that a forum exists. I don’t want to sound like whining brat, but the look might need some tiny bit of work. The default list style and rough gradient under it don’t look that good. Maybe similar styles to the sidebar’s lists would look better, idk.

philwareham · 2011-12-02 08:24:37

I agree with others that community support in the nav should be changed to forum – its too ambiguous at the moment. And docs should be a direct link to wiki pages. Also maybe change weblog while we are at it. No one uses that term anymore.

If you want me to have a look over the .com style sheets and make some improvements if necessary I’m quite happy to do that.

Finally, can we do this change on the forum please? And make tabula the default forum theme? Asking a lot I know.

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wet · 2011-12-02 08:34:15

philwareham wrote:

If you want me to have a look over the .com style sheets and make some improvements if necessary I’m quite happy to do that.

Want!

philwareham · 2011-12-02 08:56:23

wet wrote:

Want!

Ok, I’ll take a look over the weekend. At an email transmission seminar today :(

merz1 · 2011-12-02 11:48:18

[OT] .. an email transmission seminar .. A what?

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Gocom · 2011-12-02 12:02:26

merz1 wrote:

[OT] .. an email transmission seminar .. A what?

Seminar about gear delivered electromechanical mailing systems. No bs ;-)

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philwareham · 2011-12-02 12:28:46

Different services available for bulk email sending and the benefits/limitations of each. Exciting stuff. I do get free lunch though!

Bloke · 2011-12-02 12:31:45

philwareham wrote:

I do get free lunch though!

[OT] My dad always said there’s no such thing. Check the small print: you’re probably on some e-mail bulk distribution list for attending :-P

Destry · 2011-12-02 14:36:52

Regarding .com’s nav, can we also drop the verbiage too. “Learn from the Docs”? “Check the Weblog”? Seriously?

Simple, clear, single words that the world knows… like the wiki’s nav demonstrates.

The rest is just in the way.

Gocom · 2011-12-02 15:12:38

The extra lipsum descriptions are in the nav likely to make it look more balanced, while still keeping it clean as empty canvas. Otherwise the nav would look very plain and unbalanced in the current form. In my opinion it would need some redesigning if the words were dropped.

Worst things in whole .com layout are the ads (can’t be helped I assume) and some mixed colors (slightly different colored body texts, one #333 and some other shade), mixed fonts, off-balanced cramped “size and more info” under the download button, and all the italic text. Italic serif fonts are not exactly the easiest to read. At the testimonials size rendering starts to become pretty jittery.

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philwareham · 2011-12-02 15:32:06

Gocom wrote:

Worst things in whole .com layout are the ads (can’t be helped I assume) and some mixed colors (slightly different colored body texts, one #333 and some other shade), mixed fonts, off-balanced cramped “size and more info” under the download button, and all the italic text. Italic serif fonts are not exactly the easiest to read. At the testimonials size rendering starts to become pretty jittery.

I’ll look into all this (probably Sunday) and fix any balancing issues and inconsistencies I find in the CSS. I can’t change the nav wording though since I don’t have any access to the CMS.

Destry · 2011-12-02 16:01:04

Philewareham wrote:

I can’t change the nav wording though since I don’t have any access to the CMS.

I’m just throwing spaghetti on the wall to see what sticks. It’s not done until al dente!

Gocom wrote:

The extra lipsum descriptions are in the nav likely to make it look more balanced, while still keeping it clean as empty canvas. Otherwise the nav would look very plain and unbalanced in the current form.

Unbalanced against what?

FEATURES
DOCS
FORUM
BLOG
ABOUT

To my eye, once you take out the noise words, it’s laterally balanced with the logotype. And they wouldn’t be insulting my intelligence. It’s like ‘Hi, this is a Kleenex. You use it to blow your nose. And this is a cup…you put coffee in it.” Etc.

You do not use meaningless text in IA for aesthetics (e.g., balance). Ever! You can make text beautiful (e.g., typography), but that’s not the same thing.

In my opinion it would need some redesigning if the words were dropped.

Yes, it does need some redesign. Not a major overhaul, but some gradual tweaks. Design should be changed in parallel with content, as needed…subtly, transparently. Major redesigns every 5 years to pull the site out of the weeds is the wrong way to do it.

Worst things in whole .com layout are the ads (can’t be helped I assume)

Ads can be nice (and rewarding) if done right. This is another example of a content type not taken into account before the design. Nobody’s fault. Just sayin’ … and another example of the design needing some shifting in relation to content changes.

Some mixed colors (slightly different colored body texts, one #333 and some other shade), mixed fonts, off-balanced cramped “size and more info” under the download button, and all the italic text. Italic serif fonts are not exactly the easiest to read. At the testimonials size rendering starts to become pretty jittery.

Agree with all that.

Also, all the instances of “Textpattern” in all-caps is a crime on the clarity of Textpattern’s brand name. Every instance of “TEXTPATTERN” should be changed to “Textpattern” (including logotype, which should go back to small-caps at the very least). I’ll spare you the theory here, but will cover later in an article, if miracles haven’t happened first.

els · 2011-12-02 21:46:56

As Donald Swain would say: “I like your enhancements very much.” :)

philwareham wrote:

Integrating the forums a bit into the textpattern.com site as a ‘latest forum posts’

wet wrote:

Done.

Oops, we need to kill spam topics even faster now ;)

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