[mention] Wordpress < > Textpattern

wet · 2011-01-18 13:45:12

We have started to add PHPdoc at a few places and like to expand on that. Patches welcome. txplib_misc.php would be a good candidate to start. At WordPress¹, community members wrote loads of PHPdoc patches.

¹ capital_P_dangit()!

tye · 2011-01-18 13:45:30

I absolutely love the “awful ‘out of the box’ look on current Textpattern installs” – it means you don’t have to de-design a design to re-design it… you can just design from a blank canvas :) – I think I’ll have a go at a template as well though when txp 5 is out.

Personally I don’t think I have come across any piece of OpenSource/Paid software which comes near the the flexibility that Txp offers the non coder (me).

Yes there was a learning curve (isn’t there always) but I can virtually make my pages do anything I want without being forced into a set framework, thanks to the core team and the plugin coders – and I suppose because I understand it more the more I use it.

I generally build sites for other people, so I do agree with the admin area revamp. Not sure if anyone has used this before, but umbraco (asp cms) has some really good features in the admin (and bad) but the Document Types – you specify the tabs, fields you would like on this Document Type, you can see the possibilities on the video – but I have no idea if something similar is possible with txp.

I would love for multiple installs to be a bit more user friendly (but to be honest, I’ve only spent an afternoon looking at this)

But now I’m rambling and off topic all in all wp frustrates me, probably because I don’t know what I am doing, but mostly because I went with txp first and wp can’t actually do what I want it too…

oh yeah and it really annoys me when people call asking for a wp site cos they read about it in Life magazine or something – but I’m hitting a 50% txp conversion rate here :)

[Edit]Textile – I use it sporadically but I can’t get to grips with it fully, but like it (I still have to link to the formatting site everytime I post :)) – the people I build sites for just look at me blankly when I show them – thank god for hak_tinymce – it would be nice to have an option of using a wysiwyg editor on install – but I reckon I’m dreaming :)[/edit]

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hcgtv · 2011-01-18 14:08:00

wet wrote:

We have started to add PHPdoc at a few places and like to expand on that. Patches welcome.

Another good reason to move the code repository to GitHub. Patches don’t seem to be flowing much of late.

fn1. capital_P_dangit()!

Corrected, I’m really good at using proper project naming schemes, missed that. Let me use it in a sentence, WordPress uses PHP in their templates, Textpattern doesn’t. There, that’s better ;)

Gocom · 2011-01-18 14:08:29

I’m sad panda if you leave SVN. Only good GUI client on Mac is Versions.app and that can only handle SVN as the licenses are what they are. Meh, I will live.

Bloke wrote:

I raised a thread ages ago on possible avenues of approach for the comments system but forgot about it and let it fall by the wayside. Might be outdated now but I think Gocom made a start on some refactorisation of the core comment tags.

Oh that. I believe that I turned the inputs into tags. It was just 9 lines of code or something like that.

jsoo · 2011-01-18 14:21:20

Gocom wrote:

I’m sad panda if you leave SVN. Only good GUI client on Mac is Versions.app and that can only handle SVN as the licenses are what they are. Meh, I will live.

I’ve just gotten hip to SourceTree. I can’t say I’ve pushed it hard yet, but so far I love it. My Git commit practices have improved immensely just from having such a convenient GUI. Does Mercurial too.

Gocom · 2011-01-18 14:33:59

jsoo wrote:

I’ve just gotten hip to SourceTree. I can’t say I’ve pushed it hard yet, but so far I love it. My Git commit practices have improved immensely just from having such a convenient GUI. Does Mercurial too.

From the screenshots it looks pretty usable :-).

Would love to try that, but it doesn’t seem to be for me. It doesn’t use native widgets the way I would like, and the GUI isn’t really that pretty either; too much stuff going on. It’s really good for those that can take all that, but I can’t, I get distracted easily. Versions.app’s interface is easy to use as everything extra is stripped off.

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ruud · 2011-01-18 15:48:53

hcgtv wrote:

a) Database reference – Textbook – my version.

I’ve updated the Database_Schema_Reference in Textbook with the reference I once wrote and updated it to TXP 4.3.0.

Bloke · 2011-01-18 16:25:26

ruud wrote:

I’ve updated the Database Schema Reference

Awesome!

hcgtv · 2011-01-18 16:39:32

ruud wrote:

I’ve updated the Database_Schema_Reference in Textbook with the reference I once wrote and updated it to TXP 4.3.0.

Thanks Ruud, if ever we have a Textpattern meetup I’ll buy you a beer :)

ruud · 2011-01-18 20:01:52

Btw, when I was talking about documenting the code, it wasn’t just about documenting what a function’s purpose is, but also document the inner workings of a function. Sometimes you’re wondering why parts of code are necessary or why they are coded in a specific way. That’s what I used the ‘svn blame’ function for, which only works if you still have the complete project history. Tracking down a line of code to a specific commit helps to understand why it was committed (especially if the commit message was clear enough, but sometime just seeing what other code was added in that commit will help to understand its purpose).

michaelkpate · 2011-01-21 14:09:03

There’s even a Textpattern fork, http://xpattern.net/, that came about as a result of the initial leadership changes.

Not to be too picky, but xpattern was started in 2008 which was quite a while after Dean left so I wouldn’t characterize that as “initial.”

candyman · 2014-08-30 07:38:41

Another chapter :)

colak · 2014-08-30 08:17:38

candyman wrote #283364:

Another chapter :)

I guess she is not fully informed regarding the txp v wp security vulnerabilities when she offers both platforms a 5* rating for security.

gaekwad · 2014-08-30 09:31:30

From the footer:

Joyce is a professional writer & SEOer […]

It’s link bait, and it’s worked.

[Edit] Cynicism aside, she’s right: Wordpress is a better blogging platform for most people. That Wordpress-centric, Wordpress-powered, Bluehost-affiliated site is always going to come to that conclusion.

I am always amused when I see ‘Wordpress’ and ‘lightweight’ mentioned in the same sentence. Honestly, whenever I work with client Wordpress installs I feel like I’m going into battle with all the plugins I have to add.

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michaelkpate · 2014-08-30 14:25:42

gaekwad wrote #283368:

I am always amused when I see ‘Wordpress’ and ‘lightweight’ mentioned in the same sentence.

That was absolutely the funniest part. Wordpress is lightweight if you compare it to TYPO3 but compared to Textpattern it isn’t even a consideration.

I have sites running both because they excel at different things. But that was a pretty lame comparison.

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