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#1 2011-01-02 16:32:05

colak
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punBB

has pun Bit the Bullet?


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#2 2011-01-02 21:12:31

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Re: punBB

colak wrote:

has pun Bit the Bullet?

In Russia, bullet bites you ;)

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#3 2011-01-02 21:44:26

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Re: punBB

Bullets have teeth? ;-)

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#4 2011-01-03 15:18:24

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Re: punBB

Gocom wrote:

Bullets have teeth? ;-)

A tribute to Yakof Smirnoff :)

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#5 2011-01-03 15:49:23

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Re: punBB

seriously now… Does this mean the death of PunBB?


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#6 2011-01-03 16:27:53

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Re: punBB

I would guess that in the worst case it means a fork. Or maybe the real worst case would be 30 forks. For most users the software just needs to be simple, and maintaining the code doesn’t seem too difficult from what little I’ve seen of patches, so I think it would be a long time before it’s considered dead.

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#7 2011-01-03 16:38:53

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Re: punBB

colak wrote:

seriously now… Does this mean the death of PunBB?

If Informer doesn’t have interest in the project, then I guess so; the official build might be dead, but as a an open source project, the code itself will really never die. It will continue living in other projects, atleast hopefully, possibly. For example, there is the FluxBB.

hcgtv wrote:

A tribute to Yakof Smirnoff :)

Tongue-in-cheek ;-)

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#8 2011-01-03 16:48:22

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Re: punBB

colak wrote:

seriously now… Does this mean the death of PunBB?

As Marc says, the code will live on in forks or personally maintained forums. As for PunBB, sadly it’s been dead for quite some time now. It’s a shame, PunBB had a shot at becoming the de facto small board, but it was not to be I guess.

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#9 2011-01-03 18:43:45

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I guess it is the fate of open source when taken over by commercial firms.


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#10 2011-01-03 19:20:30

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Re: punBB

colak wrote:

I guess it is the fate of open source when taken over by commercial firms.

Yeah, you can say that again. Just look at OpenOffice vs. LibreOffice, there are parallels everywhere. The beauty of Open Source is that if you don’t care for the status quo, you can take the code and fork it.

The code is valuable in the sense that you don’t have to re-invent the wheel, but it’s the community building that is the tough part. In PunBB’s case, FluxBB has picked up the code and enhanced it, but the community has splintered and it’s a shadow of it’s former self.

I don’t know what the future holds, since Pun’s code was Rickard’s baby. Now we have new developers with different ideas, I mean Flux spent months deciding on enhancing the current code or doing a rewrite. In the interim, people left the community and who knows if they’ll return.

Informer made many mistakes and I’ve talked about it in the past, but the biggest mistake they made was to alienate the community by redirecting punbb.org to punbb.informer.com. Immediately we realized that their heart wasn’t in Pun, but in elevating their other properties in the search rankings.

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#11 2011-01-04 13:58:31

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Re: punBB

So is it time for a new board system here, or…do we just keep using this jalopy until it does this?

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#12 2011-01-04 14:58:55

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Re: punBB

If I had access to phpmyadmin I would try to do some tests on alternative forums. Have some time now as the building industry is taking a compulsory rest. Having said this, there seems to be signs of life.


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#13 2011-01-04 15:55:42

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Re: punBB

Destry wrote:

So is it time for a new board system here, or…do we just keep using this jalopy until it does this?

Here was my recommendation, from over a year ago.

Here is the xPattern forum running said software. It went live on January 21, 2008, that’s almost 3 years on the world wide web. In that time, we’ve had about 3 or 4 instances of spam posts and bot registrations are non-existent. It’s like installing Textpattern, no worries, it just runs without any problems.

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#14 2011-01-04 16:51:24

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Re: punBB

hcgtv wrote:

Here was my recommendation from over a year ago.

And a good one. Did you ever get PunBB converted to Phorum or is Mary’s “Archive and Start Anew” the answer?

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#15 2011-01-04 17:21:45

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Re: punBB

Bloke wrote:

Did you ever get PunBB converted to Phorum or is Mary’s “Archive and Start Anew” the answer?

The conversion script is not yet finished, it’s supposed to be a universal way of importing any forum. While waiting for the script, I decided to shut down the forum that I was running PunBB on, so I didn’t pursue it any further.

Mary’s suggestion to archive the old forum and start anew would be the easiest way to move forward. Converting just the users wouldn’t be a major undertaking, and all mods made on this forum would not be required other than enabling Textile.

If moving to Phorum is in the cards, consulting Brian or Maurice as to our plans would help us determine the course of action. Who knows, maybe a conversion of the whole forum is indeed possible with a little tweaking of the import script, and we’ll need help in creating a Textile module based off the BBcode module.

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