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#25 2016-09-01 12:42:59

phiw13
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Re: [phw_sandSpace], an admin theme for TXP CMS 4.7 and 4.8

Another round of updates and bug fixes – ready for Textpattern 4.6b3

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#26 2016-09-11 00:33:56

phiw13
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Re: [phw_sandSpace], an admin theme for TXP CMS 4.7 and 4.8

Sand space v 4.6 for for Textpattern 4.6

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#27 2016-09-11 00:40:39

hcgtv
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Re: [phw_sandSpace], an admin theme for TXP CMS 4.7 and 4.8

phiw13 wrote #301303:

Sand space v 4.6 for for Textpattern 4.6

I like that you put Form name and Form type on the same line. Nice, thanks.

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#28 2016-09-11 01:13:44

phiw13
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Re: [phw_sandSpace], an admin theme for TXP CMS 4.7 and 4.8

hcgtv wrote #301305:

I like that you put Form name and Form type on the same line. Nice, thanks.

:-). Yeah, trying to optimise the available space on various devices.

That is not always as easy as I would like. Admin-side plugins can inject themselves and “mess up” things, thus trying to keep things more or less in line with what the default Textpattern theme does. I’m more aggressive for my personal version where I have full control, I know which plugins I use etc.

Thanks for your feedback.


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#29 2016-09-11 02:38:35

hcgtv
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Re: [phw_sandSpace], an admin theme for TXP CMS 4.7 and 4.8

phiw13 wrote #301306:

I’m more aggressive for my personal version where I have full control, I know which plugins I use etc.

What plugins I do use, it’s to enhance the front end experience, rather than add functionality to the backend. So I’m learning the ways of the admin-themes, studying what you’ve done against Phil’s Hive and Neutral. Seeing what I can or can’t do in the constraints.

Here’s my take, I like phw_sandspace for the Content, Hive for the Presentation. The way you did the write panel is soothing, but Hive’s text areas lends itself better for code, less scrolling. I’m going to play around, mockup some ideas for a Textpattern IDE like theme.

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#30 2016-09-11 06:26:21

phiw13
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Re: [phw_sandSpace], an admin theme for TXP CMS 4.7 and 4.8

hcgtv wrote #301307:

Here’s my take, I like phw_sandspace for the Content, Hive for the Presentation. The way you did the write panel is soothing, but Hive’s text areas lends itself better for code, less scrolling.

Is the problem the overall height of those textareas, or is it one of font-size? Hive uses a smaller font-size, esp. for the code textareas, the overall height is close to similar between the two themes, I think.
(font-size is one of those terrible topics for discussion… me prefers larger – grumpy old man with fading eyes…).


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#31 2016-09-11 10:47:59

hcgtv
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Re: [phw_sandSpace], an admin theme for TXP CMS 4.7 and 4.8

phiw13 wrote #301311:

Is the problem the overall height of those textareas, or is it one of font-size? Hive uses a smaller font-size, esp. for the code textareas, the overall height is close to similar between the two themes, I think.
(font-size is one of those terrible topics for discussion… me prefers larger – grumpy old man with fading eyes…).

It’s the height of the textareas. I’m on a laptop that has a 1920×1080 resolution, and the textareas in sandspace causes me to have to deal with both the scrollbar in the textarea and the scrollbar in the browser window. On the Write panel it’s ok, it’s an article, but on Pages, Forms and Styles, it’s better if the textarea fits neatly in my browser window.

As for fonts, I’m all for larger fonts, my eyes ain’t what they used to be neither.

At the end of the day, Textpattern is going to need both a Desktop and Mobile admin theme. And that “Save” button causing you to have to scroll down, makes no sense to inconvenience me for the sake of screen readers.

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#32 2016-09-11 12:11:08

phiw13
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Re: [phw_sandSpace], an admin theme for TXP CMS 4.7 and 4.8

hcgtv wrote #301316:

It’s the height of the textareas. I’m on a laptop that has a 1920×1080 resolution, and the textareas in sandspace causes me to have to deal with both the scrollbar in the textarea and the scrollbar in the browser window. On the Write panel it’s ok, it’s an article, but on Pages, Forms and Styles, it’s better if the textarea fits neatly in my browser window.

Interesting. The various alpha testers who played around with me all agreed that taller textareas were preferable.

[…] At the end of the day, Textpattern is going to need both a Desktop and Mobile admin theme. And that “Save” button causing you to have to scroll down, makes no sense to inconvenience me for the sake of screen readers.

We’ll have to agree to disagree on that – both counts.

Tanks for your feedback.


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#33 2016-10-05 00:15:50

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Re: [phw_sandSpace], an admin theme for TXP CMS 4.7 and 4.8

Now ready for Textpattern 4.6.1.

Changes, etc:

  • Improved inline grid (smd_admin_themes now displays correctly)
  • Optimised image sprite
  • Improved spacing for small screen devices
  • The main menu now displays a cross mark (indicating ‘close’) when opened on small screen devices
  • Various misc. bug fixes

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#34 2016-10-05 07:42:27

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Re: [phw_sandSpace], an admin theme for TXP CMS 4.7 and 4.8

/*.multi_edit_form {
	position: relative;
	padding-top: 2.7em;
}
.multi_edit_form .multi-edit {
	position: absolute;
	top: 0;
}*/

Your CSS hack here in custom.css don’t work with the 4.6.1 release : articles fields ID and TITLE hidden for screens < 1400px

Last edited by jpdupont (2016-10-05 07:43:39)

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#35 2016-10-05 07:55:18

phiw13
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Re: [phw_sandSpace], an admin theme for TXP CMS 4.7 and 4.8

Uh, indeed. I had completely forgotten about that little hack. In my core stylesheet, the multi-edit widget is now set to position: sticky (for browser that support it). If you want that widget near the top, this will work:

.multi_edit_form {
	position: relative;
	padding-top: 3.7em;
}
.multi_edit_form .multi-edit {
	position: absolute;
	top: 0;
	bottom: auto;
}

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#36 2016-10-22 02:21:22

phiw13
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Re: [phw_sandSpace], an admin theme for TXP CMS 4.7 and 4.8

Sandspace 4.6.2 update:

  • improved styling for printed media
  • improved all around handling of text-decoration
  • some additional love for text-decoration for East-Asian languages for those browsers that support text-underline-position (uh, that is Safari 10 / MobileSafari 10 atm…)
  • replaced the Jquery-UI progress bar animated image with pure CSS code (the spinner image will be sunsetted in the near future)
  • misc. bug fixes.

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