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#1 2008-10-11 10:28:27

Gallex
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Go to content Go to navigation Go to language menu

why search engines display “. . . to content Go to navigation Go to language menu “ in a first line of search results?
take a look a first search result here

what i need to change in my page template to avoid that?

page:

<!-- accessibility -->
<div id="accessibility">
	<ul>
		<li><a href="#content">Go to content</a></li>
		<li><a href="#sidebar-1">Go to navigation</a></li>
		<li><a href="#language">Go to language menu</a></li>
	</ul>
</div>

css:

#accessibility {
position: absolute;
top: -10000px;
}

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#2 2008-10-11 11:30:59

zero
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Re: Go to content Go to navigation Go to language menu

Try:
top left: -10000px;


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#3 2008-10-11 12:03:42

Gallex
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Re: Go to content Go to navigation Go to language menu

zero wrote:

Try:
top left: -10000px;

ok, i did. is it needs a little time now to “display properly”?

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#4 2008-10-11 12:36:50

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Re: Go to content Go to navigation Go to language menu

I’m not sure. I searched on google, yahoo, dogpile, cuil and ask.com for ‘lastekaubad’ and your site was not listed. But a search for ‘lastemaailm’ found you and it did not have the accessibility.

I was just guessing that if search engines crawl from top to bottom then they were still displaying it, but moving it left (as you usually see when people hide things with css) is more reliable.


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#5 2008-10-11 14:29:42

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Re: Go to content Go to navigation Go to language menu

Fill in the <meta description="bla bla bla" />. Not sure if it will work on that Neti search engine, but will work for Google and others.


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#6 2008-10-12 08:18:39

Gallex
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Re: Go to content Go to navigation Go to language menu

maniqui wrote:

Fill in the <meta description="bla bla bla" />. Not sure if it will work on that Neti search engine, but will work for Google and others.

I had filled in <meta name="keywords" content="abc lastemaailm, lastekaubad..." /> but seems that no use for that

meta description is better place?

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#7 2008-10-12 10:51:44

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Re: Go to content Go to navigation Go to language menu

I think it is generally accepted at the moment that meta description is very important because it is displayed by google in search results. meta keywords are not so important and may even cause trouble if you put wrong keywords in there, causing google to blacklist that page, so only use keywords that exist on that actual page and don’t overdo them.


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#8 2008-10-12 12:52:47

Gallex
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Re: Go to content Go to navigation Go to language menu

zero wrote:

I think it is generally accepted at the moment that meta description is very important because it is displayed by google in search results. meta keywords are not so important and may even cause trouble if you put wrong keywords in there, causing google to blacklist that page, so only use keywords that exist on that actual page and don’t overdo them.

I peeked your homepage source. is these lines:

<meta name="robots" content="all, index, follow" />
<meta name="revisit-after" content="5 days" />

for replacing robots.txt?

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#9 2008-10-12 13:31:31

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Re: Go to content Go to navigation Go to language menu

I still use robots.txt to disallow robots from parts of my sites, for example the images or files directories. It should take precedence over the above. The above is just additional instructions. I’m not sure what the best practice is though.


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#10 2008-10-21 11:20:23

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Re: Go to content Go to navigation Go to language menu

zero wrote:

Try:
left: -10000px;

seems that no help.
what if i remove this accessibility part of my page? is it so important?

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#11 2008-10-21 12:53:23

maniqui
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Re: Go to content Go to navigation Go to language menu

Have you filled in the <meta name="description" content="Page description goes here" />?

Hiding it via CSS doesn’t really hide it for search engines. It’s just visually hidden, but it’s still there in the code and then, it will be crawled. And even if you remove it from the code, you will still be letting the crawler to “randomly” pick up any chunk of the site content to display. In other words, you remove that part, and another one that may not like you will be crawled too.

About the importance of the accessibility part, it depends on the site. I mean, have you edited that accessibility part of your code? or is it just there because it came with Textpattern? If so, those “Go to…” links might be just dummy links, pointing nowhere, so not being helpful at all for anyone…

Edit: btw, it takes some time for search engines to reflect your site changes on their indexes.

Last edited by maniqui (2008-10-21 12:54:31)


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#12 2008-10-23 10:24:11

Gallex
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Re: Go to content Go to navigation Go to language menu

maniqui wrote:

Have you filled in the <meta name="description" content="Page description goes here" />?

yes, and it was helpful. i just need to edit the head tags of my other pages too

About the importance of the accessibility part, it depends on the site. I mean, have you edited that accessibility part of your code? or is it just there because it came with Textpattern?

i have those sections on my page.

Last edited by Gallex (2008-10-23 10:24:36)

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