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#16 2008-09-28 19:39:45

aba
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

it’s only a bit related, but anyway:

Am I the only one whos thinks that it is a bit strange that I have to change back from the preview mode to the edit mode to be able to save an article? I wrote something, preview it and the publish-button is gone.

Is there any reason for this or is it just an oversight?

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#17 2008-09-30 13:55:13

ruud
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

Andreas, I can’t reproduce that (new article, press “preview”, press “text”… publish button still shows.)

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#18 2008-09-30 14:42:27

kemie
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

i think what aba means is that the publish button should be visible WHILE IN preview mode, without going back to the text tab


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#19 2008-09-30 14:45:02

aba
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

indeed.

I think the workflow should be like this:

edit -> preview -> submit

At the moment the workflow is like this:

edit -> preview -> edit -> submit

It’s just a small step, but it is irritating…

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#20 2008-09-30 14:53:03

ruud
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

That will definitely not happen in 4.0.7. It’s a non-trivial change.

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#21 2008-09-30 14:56:29

renobird
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

Damn. I was hoping Ruud would come back with a response of… “Done”.

:)

Bugger.

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#22 2008-09-30 19:22:57

kemie
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

yea, for a second i read it was definitely GOING to be done :(


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#23 2008-09-30 19:31:17

renobird
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

Ruud,

Any decision on the other requests?
Sounded like a no-go on the plugin field enlargement – how about the other stuff?

I’m especially fond of…
  • add “Title” above the title input field
  • add “Body” above the textarea

;)

T

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#24 2008-09-30 21:05:58

ruud
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

Robert, what do you think about adding Title/Body labels as proposed?
I don’t object.

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#25 2008-09-30 23:52:33

masa
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Registered: 2005-11-25
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

kemie wrote:

i think what aba means is that the publish button should be visible WHILE IN preview mode, without going back to the text tab

I have to admit, I find the preview function rather useless since it uses the admin’s CSS and not the live-site’s. It’s fine to check your Textile formatting, but users are generally puzzled when what they see there doesn’t even remotely resemble the look of the live-page. Previewing to an “invisible” section – although a workaround – is far better.

I wouldn’t miss it if it were removed entirely; the HTML tab only makes sense for geeks. Perhaps these tabs could be made optional?

Labelling the title- and body fields (above) would certainly be a nice touch for end-users.

Last edited by masa (2008-09-30 23:53:26)

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#26 2008-10-01 01:31:29

wet
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

ruud wrote:

Robert, what do you think about adding Title/Body labels as proposed?

Good for me.

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#27 2008-10-01 10:36:45

els
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Registered: 2004-06-06
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

masa wrote:

I have to admit, I find the preview function rather useless since it uses the admin’s CSS and not the live-site’s. It’s fine to check your Textile formatting, but users are generally puzzled when what they see there doesn’t even remotely resemble the look of the live-page. Previewing to an “invisible” section – although a workaround – is far better.

Martin, from history.txt, ‘Changes in 4.0.7’:

  • Write tab: WYSIWYG preview for draft/pending/hidden articles

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#28 2008-10-04 13:39:18

gomedia
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

ruud wrote:

Robert, what do you think about adding Title/Body labels as proposed?
I don’t object.

I can see that the labels have been added in the latest SVN. Very nice, but I’d like to suggest a change to the CSS to make the gaps between the input fields/textareas & the labels more consistent:

textarea { margin-top:5px; }

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#29 2008-10-26 10:13:52

Destry
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

wet wrote:

Looks definitely cleaner than the current tabs.

+1. I just now stumbled upon them, installed them (the 20% opacity version), and I can say they are going to be a permanent fixture in my admin-side now, all else staying the same.

One thing I would recommend, however, is using a sliding doors technique so that tabs can size to the text label rather than all being fixed at one size, needlessly.

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#30 2008-12-02 20:14:38

maniqui
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Re: four little changes for 4.0.7

So, finally, this set of tabs didn’t make into 4.0.7…
maybe for 4.0.8? :D


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