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jstubbs · 2008-09-21 21:13:29

Peter, I will take a look at your features page tomorrow. Whatever I edit, we can always turn back so nothing is lost :-)

I agree that 5 items is cleaner, but TXP has a lot of features that are not apparent on the current homepage. Assuming a first time user lands on the homepage, he/she would most likely want to see very quickly what are the major attributes of our CMS. Looking at it that way, 7 items that are more clearly described is better than 5 items poorly described.

Besides, until we have a better idea of the design Mathew is coming up with, there seems little point in over working this issue. It will be easier to finalise the text once we know the design – everything will just take care of itself.

My favourite feature of TXP? Difficult. Flexibility, elegance and fast site deployment, upgrading is easy, plugins are incredible. Dislikes: Changing the comments appearance is a little difficult, and I don’t like that the UI is not more consistent (based on the Article tab, which has multi-article edit, unlike Sections, Images etc).

redbot · 2008-09-22 09:24:27

zero wrote:

Re the promo space – there are now 7 items. I liked it more with 5 because it was more direct and readable, meaning I am much less inclined to read 7 items but am happy to read 5. Sorry, Redbot, but although your suggestions are good, I think they spoilt it a bit. But I don’t have a better way yet. Perhaps it’s just me though, because only one item will be seen at any one time. But if we stay with 7, which items should go last because they might not be read?…

Actually I’m following this thread quite superficially because I’m really too busy these days. I just popped in to say that a specific phrase didn’t read too good for me.
Apart from this I absolutely don’t want to complicate things and I trust you all can come to the right solution.
Keep on with the good work!

thebombsite · 2008-09-22 12:57:33

Jonathan – the images, files, links, categories and comments tabs all have multi-edit facilities in 4.0.7 similar to the articles tab though obviously with different options dependent on the tab and I’m assuming that the new design won’t be ready before the new release. (You mentioned sections but I think you meant categories.)

squaredeye · 2008-09-24 17:27:08

Its a bit difficult to figure out how close we are to a final (ish) solution before I jump into starting to lay this out. Can someone give me an idea of the level of transition that things are in? Are we nailing things down? The home page content looks great btw.

jstubbs · 2008-09-24 17:49:15

Mathew, I think its best to just go ahead and start. Content is pretty final, we are just waiting for the next stage of the design before polishing anything. As indicated by Bloke and others, we can also start on a dev site if the developers and designer (you!) think we are ready.

squaredeye · 2008-09-24 17:51:48

Jstubss,
Very good. I’ll give it another go and have something for you all by Friday :)

Matthew

Destry · 2008-09-25 07:34:38

Cool. Looking forward to the masthead to put on here, then I can tighten that skin down and port it to TextBook proper.

zero · 2008-09-25 12:42:43

Destry, you sound like your design of Textbook is a done deal but isn’t that presumptuous? You’ve posted your demo and two updates of it but nobody has responded at all. Doesn’t that tell you that perhaps nobody is enthusiastic enough about it to comment?

There has been a fully working version of textbook available for several weeks now and perhaps the community prefers that one to yours. For myself, I am getting the drift of where you are going with your design and to be honest I expected something much better. Perhaps you don’t rate mine either, so our opinions cancel each other out. But I think there’s enough of your design available now for other community members to form an opinion and decide which they prefer. To refresh memories, you can see the Dokuwiki version here. Of course some changes will need making when Matthew’s done his thing but that should not be hard to do or for people to imagine.

Destry · 2008-09-25 15:54:38

Hi Peter,

Always a pleasure.

zero wrote:

Doesn’t that tell you that perhaps nobody is enthusiastic enough about it to comment?

On the contrary, I think people are just being kind for your sake. :)

At any rate, here’s a few things I do know:

Your baiting this issue is off target in this thread.
Both hakjoon (TxB head honcho) and wet have validated keeping MediaWiki under the circumstances (you know, least amount of friction thing), something pointed out already but wich you seem to ignore. (Or forget about? Ask if you need the links.)
My design concepts originally posted here, received positive feedback, so you lost me on that one.
Outside of a consistent masthead, colors and font styling, there’s no relevancy in design between .com and a wiki, anymore than there is between a wiki and a forum. My skin is done and in affect in a live MW. Colors and fonts are inline with the style guide. The new masthead is all that’s needed, and all should fit nicely once that’s done.
If the wiki sees another 10 language translation efforts started (albeit a long stretch), your bookshelf will break. It will also break (undoubtedly) when the new masthead is given, which means you’ll need to rethink language links. (Mine are conveniently listed without constraints under the search, and will appear there when live at source as originally conceived.)
I’m now making content changes at source where they are most needed and where other authors can help. Some efforts are first made in working demo as a model to guide source changes and to show useful features like the mini-navigation (which rely on the new skin’s CSS to demonstrate effectively), but no db dumps or system changes are necessary now or later — direct demo to source changes only via front-office.
I’ve invited you to work with me on this. You continue to run solo.
If you made half as much content effort at the source as you do at 101010/textboo, the real TextBook would have already been better. (No matter, I assume anyone can just copy paste from textboo?)
Until hakjoon pesonally tells me to do otherwise (which I’ll gladly abide by because I respect the thankless role of authority), I’ll keep on with my efforts at source since nothing else is an indicator that anything has changed.

Presumptuous? Not to my reckoning, but I’ve been wrong before. Is there anything else on this issue to quibble about? If so, you might want to resuscitate this so I can kindly ignore it.

zero · 2008-09-25 16:37:22

OK, I put my reply here

Neko · 2008-09-25 17:52:31

I went ahead and contacted Jennie. She replied today. Here’s what she wrote:

I’m pretty busy at the moment (my partners and I are in the middle of restructuring and relaunching our business, Bento Box), but depending on the scope and timeline of the project, I’d love to help out as a volunteer. I looked through the thread you sent me and I am very impressed with how much you guys are pulling together and the passion still so evident in TXP users.

If you could let me know what you need from me and when you’d need the work completed, I can let you know if it’s realistic for me to get involved.

So, if we’re still considering having on board someone who can really write good copy, I’d say we should try to answer to the questions she asked (what we need and when).

Maybe we could ask her if she’d like to nail down some brief, but important, bits like the main claim or something else.

What do you guys think?

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zero · 2008-09-25 18:31:36

I think that’s great, Neko! From my pov, I would ask her to advise on the home page. The top section (arranged by zero) seems to be what we are going with at the moment, but if she could also scan through the content below that, plus read the content on Destry’s wireframe, and see if there is anything there which should be included in the finished home page content. When? anyone?

BTW, I hope this comment doesn’t stop Matthew going ahead with the design as planned.

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Destry · 2008-09-26 15:28:23

Neko wrote:

What do you guys think?

+10 — for welcome fresh air and putting some finality to things.

squaredeye · 2008-09-26 15:33:23

@neko

BTW, I hope this comment doesn’t stop Matthew going ahead with the design as planned.

What do you mean there? I don’t know how that would stop me? I’m unstoppable :P

I will be postponing till Saturday for the comp though. I hadn’t seen that wireframe comp of destries, how recent is that? What should I be looking at including or leaving out of that wireframe? Thank you for catching me up :)))

Matthew

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Destry · 2008-09-26 15:53:23

Matthieu, that’s old. It was just used to demonstrate some points after your first wire. I think zero was only referring to content, but I think you should disregard it so not to be distracted unnecessarily. Whatever plan was on your mind prior to recent distraction is what you should go with. :)

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