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#16 2008-03-31 06:26:44

kvnmcwebn
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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

*Els wrote: Also I find those huge font-sizes a bit overwhelming ;)*

yes i agree,
I think if your going to go minimalist do it with every element on the page.
72 px trebuchet isnt minimalist.
if you fount the right font and size for the head i think it would work though.


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#17 2008-03-31 09:27:58

thebombsite
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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

The icons are definitely on white backgrounds (apart from the large arrow in the archives) and are in fact jpgs at “100%”. Maybe you need to do a ctrl-F5 to ensure you have the changed images. If that doesn’t work I can change them to pngs but I shall wait until I hear back on that.

I’ve reduced the title font sizes a bit. I should say I wasn’t attempting to be minimal, just simple. I’m not sure they are quite the same thing.

I’ve added another “background” which should sort your “comment link” problem Peter. I missed that bit. ;)


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#18 2008-03-31 10:12:43

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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

ok then maybe “clean” is a better word than minimal.
I would also ad is that there isnt a visual hierarchy.

sorry if my reply sounded harsh wasnt intended to i like your work.


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#19 2008-03-31 10:49:00

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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

No problem Kevin. I didn’t take it as “harsh” and in any case, if I couldn’t take the criticism, I wouldn’t have posted in the first place. :)
Can you explain a little about what you mean by “visual hierarchy” and how it would apply to the site? I should say that I have never considered myself as a designer. I’m the builder or constructor. I generally leave the decorating to others but this is my site so I have a go at it from time to time. ;)


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#20 2008-03-31 13:52:13

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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

The round arrow and speech mark icons no longer look jagged :) There’s just one problem now, in Firefox, the folder icon has been replaced by a blue background, like the comments link problem. What was it that caused the FF problem with the comments link?


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#21 2008-03-31 17:12:39

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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

Mmmm. Well that doesn’t seem logical. I merely added a background colour to the link as the background image is part of the CSS for the link, same as the download, read more and comment links. I’m thinking the problem is with your browser cache and it’s still trying to display the original gif image which doesn’t exist any more. Try a long-held ctrl-F5 and let me know please.


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#22 2008-03-31 17:38:05

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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

ctrl_F5 worked, so it was me. Usually is…

btw, going off topic for a mo, I just got your email. I got it late cos XP decided I might have a problem with my drives and decided while checking that lots of files were invalid. So it took away all my saved settings for all my internet apps and I’ve had to start everything again from new. All my bookmarks and emails seemed to have disappeared but thankfully I got them all back I think.


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#23 2008-03-31 17:54:09

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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

I can rest easy for a bit then. :)


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#24 2008-04-01 10:30:33

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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

thebombsite wrote:

No problem Kevin. I didn’t take it as “harsh” and in any case, if I couldn’t take the criticism, I wouldn’t have posted in the first place. :)
Can you explain a little about what you mean by “visual hierarchy” and how it would apply to the site? I should say that I have never considered myself as a designer. I’m the builder or constructor. I generally leave the decorating to others but this is my site so I have a go at it from time to time. ;)

hi,
Visual hierarchy is how you assign importance to elements on a page visually. Its how you guide the readers/users eye around the page and its the first thing they teach you in graphic design college.
If there isn’t one defined the eye just moves back and forth and can’t rest- it has to take in to much at once which is the case with your site. Your basically just helping the reader break down the info. If you google image search it theres loads of results – i didnt find any really nice examples though. The easiest example is to look at the front page of a news paper and notice how your eye goes from element to element and why.

Simple things you can use are font weight, color, tint, font size, letterspacing and line.

ok im going to stop preaching now, hope that helps.


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#25 2008-04-01 11:04:47

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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

Stuart, I like the cleanliness of the design and boldness, just couldn’t quite put my finger on why my head went “argh! info overload” on first viewing the page. Thinking about it again, I reckon Kevin’s hit the nail on the head.

Not that I adhere to it much (cough cough) but the web style guide has a useful chapter on visual hierarchy and page layout that I really should pay more attention to when I design stuff.

[ btw, @zero: thanks for the tip about user-settable background colours. I never knew people/browsers did that, but now I know I’ll be mindful of it, ta! ]

Anyway, overall it’s a smart revamp and I can find stuff fairly easily; nice work sir. Still can’t believe there’s no blue… it’s just not the bombsite without it ;-)


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#26 2008-04-01 17:15:07

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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

Thanks for the link Stef. If I keep reading this stuff you never know your luck – blue might be back in a small way.


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#27 2008-04-01 19:33:30

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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

Heres the beginnings of a site im putting up. Its design is similar to yours with a simple hierarchy.

www.broadbandfacts.eu

Also notice the background has a light tint is more comfortable to read than white. I usally start with something like #f1f1f1 and go lighter from there.

oh just looked at your updates looks like your on the right track.

Last edited by kvnmcwebn (2008-04-01 19:37:49)


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#28 2008-04-01 19:35:18

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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

Do I see blue?

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#29 2008-04-01 21:50:49

thebombsite
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Re: The Bombsite redesign.

Thanks for the link Kevin. I know #f1f1f1 intimately which I think would be a little dark but I know what you mean. I’ll get to that.

Yes Els, you do see a little blue but I have to tell you that right at this very moment I have a dirty orange in mind when I find it. ;)


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