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#11 2007-05-19 11:33:10

soulship
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From: Always Sunny Charleston
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Re: Textplates '07 Launch

I have one concern/question. Why the requirement for ie6 support when ie7 is much more developed in regards to web standards and will be the primary focus for us in the now as well as moving forward? As everyone is doing their win mandated updates ie6 is being uninstalled and ie7 is being dropped in it’s place. Most of the stats on sites I admin are already showing a dramatic changeover. As a browser I loathe in the first place the are certain quirks that I would like stop debugging/catering to not to mention all the odd js hacks to support transparent png files. I can go either way so I suppose I am talking out loud.

The template should look good and function properly on all modern browsers.

  1. Firefox (Win/Mac)
  2. Internet Explorer 6 (Win)
  3. Safari (Mac)

Last edited by soulship (2007-05-19 11:33:47)

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#12 2007-05-19 14:15:01

alexandra
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From: Cologne, Germany
Registered: 2004-04-02
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Re: Textplates '07 Launch

@Tom

http://www.textplates.com/2006/12/25/rubric
does not work in Opera 9 which it once did.

@soulship
i agree. it is just annoying to care for all IE6 rendering bugs and will stop people from submiting really cool designs.

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#13 2007-05-20 01:32:26

Mary
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Registered: 2004-06-27
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Re: Textplates '07 Launch

This might be relevant:

Interest in Microsoft Corp.‘s Internet Explorer 7 has stagnated, a pair of metrics vendors that track browser usage said Monday.

Users, however, were allowed to decline the upgrade to IE7, and enterprises were given tools to block the move to the new browser. Microsoft also committed to supporting the older browser until 2014.

PC World: IE7 Interest: Flat

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#14 2007-05-20 07:16:47

wet
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From: Lenzing, Austria
Registered: 2005-06-06
Posts: 3,267
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Re: Textplates '07 Launch

MSIE 6: 52.4%
Mozilla Firefox: 20.1%
MSIE 7: 13.4%
MSIE 5: 3.9%
Safari: 2.8%
Mozilla NS 7: 2.4%
Netscape 4: 1.4%
Mozilla: 1.3%
Opera 7: 0.4%
Opera 9: 0.4%
Opera 8: 0.4%

May 2007, webhits.de

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#15 2007-05-20 14:25:07

thame
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Re: Textplates '07 Launch

You guys are right, I should have included a requirement for IE 7 support. However, I’m afraid (like wet’s statistics show), IE 6 is still far too prevalent to ignore. I understand that this gives some restrictions (trust me, I hate IE6 just as much as the next developer), but I don’t think it’s ready to be dropped.

I’ll work on updating the rubric today.

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#16 2007-05-21 18:55:31

NyteOwl
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From: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Re: Textplates '07 Launch

Call me a purist but frankly I think the requirement should have been that it adhere to web standards. If the browser can’t manage that – that’s the browser’s fault. This just helps perpetuate the “best viewed in” mindset.


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#17 2007-05-21 22:16:37

zero
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From: Lancashire
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Re: Textplates '07 Launch

I will second mrdale and hcgtv. IMHO, the plugin is perfect for this competition.

For those who want to convert their templates to suit the plugin, I found Bulk Rename Utility

Just install hcg plugin, go to Extensions, put a suitable name in the “Name this export” box, and export. Then use BRU to add a prefix to the exported files. BRU makes it very simple. ( you just use Add 7 to put your prefix. )

You then will have to go into the content of the forms, pages and style and add the prefix here and there. That’s the hardest part, but well worth it because everyone will very quickly be able to see the templates at work, and by having the prefix it will make it distinct and it won’t interfere with existing files.


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#18 2007-05-23 12:00:47

soulship
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From: Always Sunny Charleston
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Re: Textplates '07 Launch

thame wrote:

(trust me, I hate IE6 just as much as the next developer)

At least it’s unanimous ;)

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#19 2007-05-24 22:26:49

squaredeye
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From: Greenville, SC
Registered: 2005-07-31
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Re: Textplates '07 Launch

NyteOwl wrote:

Call me a purist but frankly I think the requirement should have been that it adhere to web standards. If the browser can’t manage that – that’s the browser’s fault. This just helps perpetuate the “best viewed in” mindset.

Nyteowl,
I personally don’t know anyone who is a professional web developer who has this attitude (to be frank :).
I would not make any money as a freelancer if I didn’t mantain an attitude that webstands is a continuum (Zeldman quote).

Thame,
I’m psyched about this competition. I’m glad to see you got so many contributors. Well done bro.

Matthew


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#20 2007-05-26 12:51:19

pospel
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From: Ukraine
Registered: 2004-02-23
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Re: Textplates '07 Launch

Somebody of textplates clear this: is it allowed to make templates public (i mean let other people use them) while the contest is not over? For example, i’ve designing a couple of templates for txp community and for textplates too, should I wait for end of event to release them?

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