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#1 2006-12-14 07:14:26

Mary
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[wiki] TextBook down? DNS expired?

Is/was this expected to happen today?

DNS Expired

You are seeing this page because the current DNS service has expired.
This is usually just a temporary error while the DNS service is being renewed. But you will want to ask your system administrator to make sure they are aware of this error and payment is made.

If your system administrator is having you use the wrong resolving name servers you will want to notify them of this mistake right away.

I was in the middle of finishing off work at the WIKI. :/

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#2 2006-12-14 13:35:39

Mary
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Re: [wiki] TextBook down? DNS expired?

Yay, it’s back for me again.

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#3 2006-12-14 13:43:39

hakjoon
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Re: [wiki] TextBook down? DNS expired?

Eeek.

Doesn’t a bunch of other stuff run off Textpattern.net. I know the lists do but I thought there was more. Maybe it’s just the same box.


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#4 2006-12-14 14:03:37

Mary
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Re: [wiki] TextBook down? DNS expired?

Well, it was a DNS thing, it said, so it wouldn’t have been that there was anything particularly wrong with the server (I think all of it is on the same box, actually), just the specific pointer(s) to the txp.net domain?

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#5 2006-12-14 15:09:36

hakjoon
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Re: [wiki] TextBook down? DNS expired?

I was just trying to think of what else would have been down with the DNS expiration. I think Textbook and the lists are all that are on the txp.net domain.

I’ve always wondered why we went with the different top level domains instead of everything being on .com


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#6 2006-12-14 15:18:42

Mary
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Re: [wiki] TextBook down? DNS expired?

I think originally it was because of the efforts being mostly separate, with some inter-collaboration – it actually makes it a little easier, when you think about directories and files, etc. It means you only have to worry about your “corner”, and not that you’ll break up someone elses.

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#7 2006-12-14 23:07:46

hakjoon
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Re: [wiki] TextBook down? DNS expired?

It is nice not worrying about blowing up the forum when I’m upgrading mediawiki, but you could still have that separation if they pointed to textbook.textpattern.com, resources.textpattern.com, textgarden.textpattern.com Just need to setup the subdomains that way.

It’s really of six of one, half a dozen of the other, nothing particularly worth worrying about. I just always wondered what Dean’s logic was way back then for the different TLDs. It would mean less domains to keep track of though.


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#8 2006-12-14 23:13:21

hcgtv
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Re: [wiki] TextBook down? DNS expired?

hakjoon, just curious why the wiki is in the /wiki subdirectory?

Isn’t it the only thing on textpattern.net?

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#9 2006-12-16 05:21:28

hakjoon
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Re: [wiki] TextBook down? DNS expired?

There’s no reason that I know of. Remillard originally set it up. Not sure if there was any reasoning behind it then. Not sure what effect changing it at this point would have on links and bookmarks. I know I’d have to go in and update all the interwiki links in DB.


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#10 2006-12-16 14:55:25

hcgtv
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Re: [wiki] TextBook down? DNS expired?

Hey just curious, please don’t go changing things cause I ask a question.

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#11 2006-12-16 16:09:15

hakjoon
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Re: [wiki] TextBook down? DNS expired?

It’s one of those things that Destry and I have talked about but we were trying to think of some way that wouldn’t make all the links in teh wild not work.

I think the original, original plan was to use the wiki as an incubator but the official textbook would be a txp install that might be why it was put in a subdirectory.


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#12 2006-12-18 19:17:07

Destry
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Re: [wiki] TextBook down? DNS expired?

hakjoon wrote:

I think the original, original plan was to use the wiki as an incubator but the official textbook would be a txp install that might be why it was put in a subdirectory.

There was that original thinking that TextBook would eventually be in Txp, but then the internationalization thing became more of a reality and soon it made the notion of going to Txp unfeasible. Also, let’s not beat around the bush, a wiki is just better at slapping down rough text in bulk, there’s no arguing that (well, you can try, but I wouldn’t listen). On the other hand, net-carver’s new MLP gives one reason to raise an eyebrow now with respect to the language thing, and there’s never been enough authoring contribution in the wiki for the “bulk” concept to be worth a damn, so…who knows.

Getting back to the wiki/ directory, specifically, I don’t think there was much thinking about it at all. Remember, Remilliard, first intstalled the wiki on his own box before Dean ever hosted it. Also, MediaWiki unpacks in a folder called “wiki”, so I think it was just unpacked and simply kept that way. When Dean offered to host the site, it was all just moved over in one lump with no real thought or discussion about future aims or best practice. Nobody really knew if the whole wiki project would even fly so such issues as URLs and whatnot were outside the lights perimeter.

I had an idea about one possible approach, but I’m guessing the lack of response was a kind way of letting me know I didn’t know what I was talking about, which is likely the case.

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