Cosmetic Surgery

Destry · 2006-10-19 04:43:43

Contributions like that are great, rloaderro.

Talking to everybody here:

I’m not going to keep saying it (because it’s like blowing smoke rings in a hurricane), but that’s exactly the kind of stuff that should go in the wiki project page. If you put it in the wiki, it’s easily organized and accessible from a single page. People can comment about (or comment here and point links), and the whole collection of thoughts is kept nice, neat, organized, etc, etc, etc. On the other hand, if you add resources here, they just turn into post #92, and in another week it’s probably buried under two more forum pages. If there’s anything I fucking hate about forums, it’s a forum thread that goes on forever, like the zem_contact_reborn thread…sheesh. They only way you can gleen anthing from threads like that is to waste an an hour of your life skimming through all the crap. One wiki page that is cleanly edited is a million times better than a long, rambling forum thread that gets nowhere! I’m pointing out the utility of it all, people, I’m not taking charge of managing the pages. I may help contribute to them, but that’s all I will commit to.

I’ll go have some coffee now.

hazel · 2006-10-19 08:33:56

Right on.

After I finish work today I’ll add my notes to the wiki.

@rloaderro
Could you post your naming convention references on a page too?

hazel · 2006-10-19 21:58:07

Hi all

Ive updated Destry’s TASR wiki page with some new notes, have a look :)

Please add, edit, delete as you see fit. I have some more stuff to add collected from the various threads, will do when I get some more time.

rloaderro · 2006-10-19 22:12:01

hazel wrote:

Ive updated Destry’s TASR wiki page with some new notes, have a look :)

Great hazel! I sent away for a Wiki account – I hope to be able to contribute soon! In the meantime would you like to create a new thread for Semantic Markup here in the forum or she would continue with that here?

hazel · 2006-10-20 08:55:19

Not sure, what do you reckon?

Don’t want to fork the discussion again, there already being this and Ace’s thread going on. But also don’t want to hijack Mary’s thread, which has it’s own valid purpose.

And it still would be good to get some more people onboard, and the nod from Mary, otherwise it’s not gonna go anywhere.

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Also, just a kind of note to self: The aim is not to write documentation for fun. My only reason for doing it is to reach the goal of getting the markup done (which I see as the ‘Next action’ GTD fans). And to capture some of the valuable ideas in these threads, so we have a bit of vision what to do after that.

Destry · 2006-10-20 11:56:41

hazel wrote:

The aim is not to write documentation for fun…[but]…to capture some of the valuable ideas in these threads, so we have a bit of vision what to do after that.

Exactly! Organized capturing of ideas to light the way. ;)

Ace of Dubs · 2006-10-20 13:15:14

I like this idea a lot. Just edited that wiki page a bit myself. Will post more stuff there when I get a chance

jakob · 2006-10-20 14:28:06

hazel, I only just realised you can only see the Flickr Group if you’re a member of the group. You’ve gathered lots of stuff there already. I added a few screenshots from three admin-area versions of mine.

marco · 2006-10-20 18:12:40

jakob wrote:

Why not make those Flickr shots public? After all, the forum post are public, so why restrict access on Flickr to something which is already public? Wouldn’t you benefit more if more people see them? having those mock-ups collected on Flickr is a good idea, but the group restriction is not.

jakob · 2006-10-20 19:23:38

marco, maybe something got mixed up there with your blockquote – that’s not what I wrote, but sure it would be better to have them public. hazel wrote on the TASR textbook page that there’s some kind of technical reason for it, so I don’t think it’s purposely so:

(because the images are screenshots and not ‘photos’, Flickr will hide them and tell you you can’t see them. You have to sign in/up and join the group to see them, sorry.)

hazel · 2006-10-21 00:04:30

Flickr has some crazy rule about ‘non-photo’ images not being public. I found this out after the fact, and after much head-scratching. The group is public, the photo permissions are public, but they still don’t show (unless youre signed in and part of the group). As Flickr doesnt let you batch export (on purpose I guess), theyre kind of stuck there. -100 karma points for Flickr.

marco · 2006-10-21 00:27:22

jakob wrote:

marco, maybe something got mixed up there with your blockquote – that’s not what I wrote, but sure it would be better to have them public. hazel wrote on the TASR textbook page that there’s some kind of technical reason for it, so I don’t think it’s purposely so:

(because the images are screenshots and not ‘photos’, Flickr will hide them and tell you you can’t see them. You have to sign in/up and join the group to see them, sorry.)

I was logged in, but not a member of the group, and could not see any photo.

I doubt that Flickr can tell that an “admin.jpg” screen capture is different from a “landscape.jpg” that is a photo, unles they get the image EXIF, but then a lot of photos are saved with EXIF info stripped from them and are displayed publicly, so what gives?

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hazel · 2006-10-21 01:03:24

If your account has less than 50% ‘real photos’ it’s marked ‘NIPSA (not in public site areas)’ and none of your public photos show up in groups, searches etc (presumably they have real people checking the accounts, or a clever robot).

As all the photos in the group are from my account at the moment (bar the one’s Jakob just uploaded ;), I guess that’s the problem.

It’s unfortunate, but let’s move on…

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hazel · 2006-10-27 23:38:30

Hi everyone,

I finally got some time to post my notes to the TASR page.

This is stuff I’ve picked up from the various threads on this topic. I’ve reorganised a few things too, but hopefully for the better.

Specifically I made a separate page for collecting feature ideas/wishlist stuff. This needs some editing (grouping the ideas into themes, feel free :). I did run into some problems trying to define the scope of the TASR project. This shouldnt turn into a dumping ground of any and all feature ideas, so I came up with some guidelines which suggest your idea should ‘relate directly to how the Txp admin functions’. Its a little vague, but it’s the best I could do.

I think the best thing would be to just post ideas there and forget about them, for now… while we focus on getting the markup/CSS done.

So without further ado, I’d like to open the discussion on agreeing the markup naming conventions (with due regard to rloaderro’s essential reading). This could/should maybe be another thread, depending on Mary’s thoughts.

Last edited by hazel (2006-10-28 00:07:57)

hazel · 2006-11-23 16:34:23

So that went well :-/

Does anyone know of any progress with the markup in Crockery? I havnt been keeping up with Trac for a while.

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