Which plugins to make it into the core?

colak · 2006-05-29 18:28:59

There is a lot of discussion <a href=“http://forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?id=15032”>here</a> regarding improved image management which I support wholeheartedly.

What other functions would you want to be included in the next release(s) of txp?

Understanding of how the developers work (Please do correct me here if I am wrong), they prefer adding to the core tried, existing solutions and these, many times come in the form of plugins.

This is not a featured request and this is why I am not posting it there. This thread is about patter.

What I would love txp to include is more conditional tags like those included in the <a href=“http://forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?id=4526”>glx_if</a>, <a href=“http://forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?id=16601”>wet_if_page</a> and <a href=“http://forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?id=4275”>glx_hl_current</a>.

Txp already has a lot of features and control but a few more conditionals would be great!!!

jm · 2006-05-29 20:30:57

cbs_category_list has to be included. Maybe a new attribute: <txp:category_list sensitive="1" /> could produce section sensitive lists. For me, this is important, as maintaing a photoblog and blog involves separating categories, which is why the standard category_list doesn’t work (I don’t post photos of CSS, for instance :P).

marios · 2006-05-29 20:49:03

XML-RPC that works properly for Ecto and Marsedit .

regaards

nardo · 2006-05-29 23:44:20

three fairly simple plugins that could probably make the core without too much bother

wilshire’s show advanced options toggle (altho would be good as part of more options to customise write screen for end-users)
mary’s textile toggle for excerpts
chh_if_data

rloaderro · 2006-06-09 22:02:35

upm-insert-tab
upm-save-new

zem · 2006-06-10 02:22:30

Just a couple of quick observations here.

First: the dev team doesn’t really keep up to date with plugins. We’d like to, but there are lots of them, frequently updated, and only so many hours in a day. A list of plugin names isn’t all that meaningful to us, because chances are we’ve never used them before (or perhaps even heard of them). If you’d like to suggest plugins or patches for the core, please do ; but it’ll make our job much easier if you can tell us exactly what it does, and why it’s important.

And second: our strategy isn’t to take plugins and move them into the core. The fact that a good quality plugin exists and does its job well isn’t a sign that it should be made part of the core. Quite the opposite: the fact that it can be done well as a plugin demonstrates that the core is doing its job just fine. (If we were to take every good plugin and make it part of the core, we’d wind up with a big ball of mud, regardless of how well written the individual pieces are. Keeping them separate means each developer need only worry about her own little ball of mud)

The things that go into the core are intended to solve problems that can’t be done well with plugins; or that are so fundamental and common that a single definitive solution is required. That’s entirely subjective, of course, but making good decisions like these is what makes us good developers, and Textpattern good software.

mrdale · 2006-06-10 03:46:25

>Granted Zem.

But I really think a “save new” button and some of the glx_if conditionals are fundamental enough to be part of the core. They’re pretty darn elementary. ‘Course, I do like excellent free software so I’,m not complaining.

Mary · 2006-06-10 03:56:01

Which is why he said (emphasis mine):

…the dev team doesn’t really keep up to date with plugins… tell us exactly what it does, and why it’s important.

Specifically for glx_if: which conditionals are you considering fundamental (make no assumptions about the devs’ knowledge of the plugin)? If they’re fundamental and simple enough they could potentially be added to 4.0.4 rather than 4.1 or later.

:)

colak · 2006-06-10 06:04:55

For the glx_if I think that the glx_if_frontpage os the most useful conditional. It differentiates between the front page ie site.com/ and the rest of the pages ie mysite.com/?pg=1.

To explain this is how i use it in the default page of the neme site

Sporadically there are requests about differentiating the front page to the rest of the site. Admittedly there are txp core solutions for it but none can do it as easilly and as elegantly as the glx plugin.

The second conditional offered by the plugin which people might find useful is glx_if_section_frontpage which differentiates the sections front page to the rest ie site.com/section/about/

Last edited by colak (2006-06-10 06:06:07)

mrdale · 2006-06-10 16:15:59

Well put colak, my thoughts exactly.

>Mary, Zem.

I’d put a vote in for zem_article_info and upm_insert_tab,

zem_article_info provides some extra information on the article > write page
upm_insert_tab allows tab insertion within admin textareas.

I’ve included links ‘cause I know it’s hard for the devs to keep up with plugin development. ;)
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maniqui · 2006-06-12 23:05:53

I wrote to TeamTextpattern to suggest the include of anc_hide.
The plug-in is very simple. From the summary in the linked site.

The anc_hide plugin allows you to comment out areas of a page or form opaquely; using the anc_comment tag instead of HTML comments around a block of code will hide it from the rendered output.

Also, a vote for upm_insert_tab.

xjosie729 · 2006-08-18 13:10:28

I would really love to have textpattern nest categories inside sections.

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