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Re: Feedback: Textpattern CMS 4.9.0 beta.2 released
It’s fixed in the core Mail Adapter but I seem to have forgotten to pull the commit forward into the 4.9.0 com_connect plugin oops. I probably assumed I’d merge it from main at some point but haven’t done that yet. I’ll get it done, apologies.
I also wonder if it should be fixed in the core Encoder.
Hmmm. Let me play.
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#14 2025-03-19 09:37:26
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Re: Feedback: Textpattern CMS 4.9.0 beta.2 released
phiw13 wrote #339320:
Is that with com_connect?
No, I’m not using com_connect with the beta site – the problem is still with emails from Textpattern itself (account activation and password change emails for example).
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#15 2025-03-19 09:40:57
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Re: Feedback: Textpattern CMS 4.9.0 beta.2 released
Bloke wrote #339324:
Hmmm. Let me play.
Thanks for taking a look! The problem I’m having is with core Textpattern emails, I haven’t tried com_connect yet.
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Re: Feedback: Textpattern CMS 4.9.0 beta.2 released
hidalgo wrote #339326:
Thanks for taking a look! The problem I’m having is with core Textpattern emails.
Are you using enhanced mail or SMTP settings or is this (as I suspect) using built in mail()?
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#17 2025-03-19 23:41:45
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Re: Feedback: Textpattern CMS 4.9.0 beta.2 released
Bloke wrote #339327:
Are you using enhanced mail or SMTP settings or is this (as I suspect) using built in
mail()?
Yes, I was just using the standard Textpattern setup as is, but have now enabled ‘enhanced mail’ and this solves the header problem. Thanks for the tip!
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Re: Feedback: Textpattern CMS 4.9.0 beta.2 released
hidalgo wrote #339336:
Yes, I was just using the standard Textpattern setup as is, but have now enabled ‘enhanced mail’ and this solves the header problem. Thanks for the tip!
In which case, it’s definitely the Encode class that’s wrong. Thanks for confirming. I’ll fix it.
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Re: Feedback: Textpattern CMS 4.9.0 beta.2 released
Okay, please try the old regular (not enhanced) mail now and see if this commit fixes it.
I’ve also patched the 4.9.0 branch of com_connect with the same code.
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#20 2025-03-20 02:15:47
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Re: Feedback: Textpattern CMS 4.9.0 beta.2 released
Bloke wrote #339338:
Okay, please try the old regular (not enhanced) mail now and see if this commit fixes it.
I’ve pulled the latest dev branch and disabled the enhanced mail option, but unfortunately the headers are still broken with this option off.
I’ve also installed the 4.9.0 branch of com_connect and it’s the same, but works correctly with enhanced mail enabled.
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Re: Feedback: Textpattern CMS 4.9.0 beta.2 released
Hmmm drat. I was hoping that would fix it. Thanks for testing.
More research required. Leave it with me.
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Re: Feedback: Textpattern CMS 4.9.0 beta.2 released
Pop help for “Use enhanced mail features”, the last two sentences read:
“Switching to ‘Yes’ can improve deliverability. Using SMTP will often further enhance deliverability.”
Isn’t this a little duplicate? (or maybe just unclear?)
Where is that emoji for a solar powered submarine when you need it ?
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#23 2025-03-21 06:55:07
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Re: Feedback: Textpattern CMS 4.9.0 beta.2 released
phiw13 wrote #339346:
Isn’t this a little duplicate? (or maybe just unclear?)
From my testing, enhanced mail doesn’t need the SMTP settings filled in to work, so that would be the first level of improved deliverability. Then adding SMTP settings would be the second level of enhanced deliverability.
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Re: Feedback: Textpattern CMS 4.9.0 beta.2 released
hidalgo wrote #339347:
enhanced mail doesn’t need the SMTP settings filled in to work, so that would be the first level of improved deliverability. Then adding SMTP settings would be the second level of enhanced deliverability.
This is correct. The first “layer” simply switches from using mail() to using PHPMailer. The latter is a lot more fully featured, supports HTML email out of the box and is more widely regarded among email servers and recipients as a “trusted” source. Thus it can improve deliverability simply by using it via the enhanced email option.
The big daddy is SMTP because you have complete control over signing and security and whatnot, which steps up your game through the eyes of the servers handling your messages.
phiw13 wrote #339346:
Isn’t this a little duplicate? (or maybe just unclear?)
If you think the text can be improved or needs stuff adding to it to make the separation clearer, by all means suggest edits.
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