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#556 2020-07-07 06:44:42

gaekwad
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

jakob wrote #324327:

I think Pete mentioned AWstats or your own server’s system as a means of visually evaluating your server logs. Note: you need to set your server logs to collect anonymised data if you want to avoid displaying a GDPR consent notice. There are probably other simply systems.

It wouldn’t have been AWStats, I’ve never actively installed it but used it on client servers that I’ve inherited. I’ve used Matomo (was Piwik) and that seems to work with my brain, given my requirements. I’ve tended toward the web ops side of things rather than marketing and engagement in recent years, and there are many amazing software libraries / packages I can talk about from that, but it’s outside the scope of this thread.

GoAccess is very good, but requires some on-ramp acclimatising to get your head around it.

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#557 2020-07-07 16:03:29

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

Our org doesn’t much care in knowing personal info on users; who they are, or any other demographic data; they wish to know the location of our users and pages viewed and total number of visitors on a monthly basis… Just a measurement that our webpages are being used /visited and are of value to the membership. The location is simply to judge how out-of-towners compare to the locally based groups. As for my own vanity sites, total number of visitors on weekly basis is more than adequate. Simple Stats!


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#558 2020-07-08 15:52:55

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

Bashing the European Union’s General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) seems to have become one of American activists’ favourite hobbies in the tech field. Some criticism is entirely justified. But many claims that the GDPR is “counterproductive” or “misses the point” are based on misconceptions, rather than an accurate understanding of European data protection laws. – The EU General Data Protection Regulation explained by Americans

The problem with Laws is that they need to be well-written. And then they need to be enforced.

However, there are concerns that, while the framework of the regulation is solid, the EU and the European Commission is not doing enough to ensure that budgets and resources for Data Protection Authorities (DPAs) are sufficient to handle an increasing number of complaints and data privacy violations. – How EU Authorities See GDPR Effectiveness Two Years In

Europe adds a lot of complexity on top of that with each country trying to decide how to enforce it. But it is still early yet.

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#559 2020-07-08 17:17:47

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

bici wrote #324358:

Our org doesn’t much care in knowing personal info on users; who they are, or any other demographic data; they wish to know the location of our users and pages viewed and total number of visitors on a monthly basis… Just a measurement that our webpages are being used /visited and are of value to the membership. The location is simply to judge how out-of-towners compare to the locally based groups. As for my own vanity sites, total number of visitors on weekly basis is more than adequate. Simple Stats!

Yes, similar here too. And that is what you get from simpleanalytics.io: live demo page of their stats.

About the only thing I’ve ‘missed’ is a more detailed breakdown on the version of the browsers, though this is actually gradually becoming less relevant with the fast update cycles of modern browsers and the gradual disappearance of old IE.

One feature of Google Analytics that was useful on one larger site where I was using it is the “pathway” through the site (i.e. which page was visited next). That was useful to see how placing certain topics on the homepage directed more traffic to a sub-page as a way of verifying if steering focus helped. In simpleanalytics you can do that another way by using an event (docs) to log when a featured item on the homepage is clicked.


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#560 2021-03-09 11:10:07

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

Appears that some companies don’t learn from those that came before them:

www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2021/02/10/clubhouse-the-hot-new-social-network-has-big-privacy-problems/


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#561 2021-03-09 11:15:02

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

Bloke wrote #329161:

Appears that some companies don’t learn from those that came before them:

www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2021/02/10/clubhouse-the-hot-new-social-network-has-big-privacy-problems/

Their methodology reminds me of the early gmail days.

When you’re accepted as a member, you have a chance to invite two others – and this is where the first of the privacy concerns emerges.


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#562 2021-03-31 18:44:43

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

jakob wrote #324327:

goatcounter

Haha. That one’s the winner by name alone.

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#563 2021-03-31 18:57:01

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

Oh, what I meant to say, after searching to see if anyone mentioned Plausible yet, they posted this in M’don. I guess I should not be surprised Fb had analytics, but here’s to it ending.

I’m always suspicious, though, of big tech, and what they have up the sleeve after announcements like this.

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#564 2021-04-01 04:42:55

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

Destry wrote #329618:

Haha. That one’s the winner by name alone.

You’ll perhaps appreciate posthog, too.

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#565 2021-04-01 08:28:25

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

This regards GDPR stuff in general.

Microsoft launched new service to sell photos as training data ($0.20/photo). Using their own metric, Microsoft Celeb face dataset would now cost $1,640,000/download. According to AcademicTorrents, MS-Celeb-1M was downloaded > 1,000 times, or ≈$1,640,000,000 of biometric photos. twitter.com/adamhrv/status/1377533638171099137


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