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#25 2016-11-07 02:31:12

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Re: Forum updated

I’m seeing what appears to be a diacritical mark with all the “st” combos. I was not seeing that before the upgrade.

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#26 2016-11-07 07:44:17

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Re: Forum updated

maverick wrote #302719:

I’m seeing what appears to be a diacritical mark with all the “st” combos. I was not seeing that before the upgrade.

Can you give an example?

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#27 2016-11-08 22:42:17

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Re: Forum updated

Something I noticed this AM: No more cookie warning?

(I had deleted all cookies everywhere, with previous versions, that would trigger the cookie warning message on next load).


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#28 2016-11-08 22:57:24

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Re: Forum updated

phiw13 wrote #302794:

Something I noticed this AM: No more cookie warning?

Yes, I got rid of it. Since GA doesn’t infringe on cookie law now we can discard the disclaimer. The terms of use for our forum covers any signed in users.

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#29 2016-11-08 23:45:04

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Re: Forum updated

philwareham wrote #302795:

Yes, I got rid of it. Since GA doesn’t infringe on cookie law now we can discard the disclaimer. The terms of use for our forum covers any signed in users.

Thanks – not unhappy about it! :-)


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#30 2016-11-14 01:43:38

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Re: Forum updated

philwareham wrote #302725:

Can you give an example?

Hi Phil. Sorry to the tardy follow up. Just got back on the forum today. It was a circumflex on all the st combos on the page. I was using my Chromebook at the time (which died last week shortly after my post). I’m back on a Mac, and the issue no longer shows.

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#31 2016-11-14 04:14:40

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Re: Forum updated

maverick wrote #302837:

Hi Phil. Sorry to the tardy follow up. Just got back on the forum today. It was a circumflex on all the st combos on the page. I was using my Chromebook at the time (which died last week shortly after my post). I’m back on a Mac, and the issue no longer shows.

Hmm, busted ligatures with the Roboto font? Can anyone reproduce that with any recent Android phone with Chrome? Or is Roboto having a particularly weird idea about handling discretionary ligatures (which is what dlig means)?

This is possibly the issue:

body { font-feature-settings: "liga", "dlig" }

For something like the forum, you only need the 'liga' part (basic ligatures such as ‘fi’ or ‘ll’ etc).


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#32 2016-11-14 09:01:23

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Re: Forum updated

phiw13 wrote #302838:

For something like the forum, you only need the 'liga' part (basic ligatures such as ‘fi’ or ‘ll’ etc).

Well, in truth we don’t need either of those ligature settings, but they are nice to have. If there is an issue in Roboto font it needs to be confirmed and an issue raised here.

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#33 2016-11-14 09:11:32

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Re: Forum updated

philwareham wrote #302841:

Well, in truth we don’t need either of those ligature settings, but they are nice to have.

Well per spec, liga should be ON by default, I believe ( font-variant:common-ligatures is equivalent to liga ). They are in Safari / Firefox and I think Edge – Chrome they were not on, last time I tested.

Discretionary ligatures (equivalent to dlig) is a whole other matter, where funky swashes and the like appear (see spec image at the link).


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#34 2016-11-14 11:52:38

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Re: Forum updated

OK, I’ve removed discretionary ligatures support – I can live without ‘st’ being stylised.

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#35 2016-11-14 14:45:53

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Re: Forum updated

I can confirm that I am no longer seeing the st ligatures on Chrome on Android.

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#36 2016-11-15 00:00:12

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Re: Forum updated

michaelkpate wrote #302848:

I can confirm that I am no longer seeing the st ligatures on Chrome on Android.

So it was the dlig after all. Probably not a bug in Roboto then, although a weird discretionary ligature. Anyway, dlig should only be used in a very controlled environment, as it is font (and context) specific.

philwareham wrote #302844:

OK, I’ve removed discretionary ligatures support – I can live without ‘st’ being stylised.

I’m just curious here (as I don’t have access to 10.12): does dlig with -apple-system do something special to the st pair on 10.12 (on all browsers)? On 10.11 it does absolutely nothing. On Win 10 / Edge 14 + Firefox, with Segoe UI that character pair display as default, that is no effect either.

Here is a minimal test case
Screenshots on 10.12 + Android appreciated, tia.


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