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#31 2016-08-03 22:14:15

bici
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

johnstephens wrote #300492:

Another question: A fresh install with 4.6 sets dbcharset in the config.php file to utf8mb4. Is that something we should update when upgrading an existing site to the new version?

good question. what is the best setting? i have $txpcfg[‘dbcharset’] = ‘utf8’;


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#32 2016-08-03 23:06:36

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

johnstephens wrote #300492:

Another question: A fresh install with 4.6 sets dbcharset in the config.php file to utf8mb4. Is that something we should update when upgrading an existing site to the new version?

I don’t think so. If your existing site is running fine (with UTF8), there is no reason to change. As far as I understand it, utf8mb4 is an extension (a superset) of UTF8.

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#33 2016-08-03 23:24:53

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

Longtime irk that I’d love to see changed… the “with selected”.
  1. I think it should be above the articles.
  2. I think there is clearer wording like “actions” or “work on checked” or “work on selected | selection”

On sites with a lot of content and a long listing where you want to work on a long list of selectionsTXP currently forces you to scroll to the end of the page.

I like this one much better…

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#34 2016-08-03 23:33:47

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

mrdale wrote #300495:

Longtime irk that I’d love to see changed… the “with selected”.

  1. I think it should be above the articles.

Depends on your work flow… I typically scroll down the list and check one or more items. By the time I’m ready to take action, I’m actually at or near the bottom of the listing.

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#35 2016-08-04 00:18:12

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

phiw13 wrote #300496:

Depends on your work flow… I typically scroll down the list and check one or more items. By the time I’m ready to take action, I’m actually at or near the bottom of the listing.

I see it more the other way on my travels around the web, but your mileage may vary.

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#36 2016-08-04 13:46:53

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

phiw13 wrote #300494:

I don’t think so. If your existing site is running fine (with UTF8), there is no reason to change. As far as I understand it, utf8mb4 is an extension (a superset) of UTF8.

That’s also my understanding. utf8mb4 is backwards-compatible with utf8, but extends support to emoji and other typographical horrors.

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#37 2016-08-04 13:49:42

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

philwareham wrote #300490:

Just a note that there will be another beta at least before the final release,

I’ll prepare the demo site for beta 3.

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#38 2016-08-05 17:59:37

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

johnstephens wrote #300492:

Another question: A fresh install with 4.6 sets dbcharset in the config.php file to utf8mb4. Is that something we should update when upgrading an existing site to the new version?

You can’t just simply change the charset in the config file. The tables in the database need to be updated as well to reflect this change.

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#39 2016-08-05 18:02:12

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

johnstephens wrote #300489:

Question: How can I compare the trace summaries for 4.5.7 and 4.6? 4.6 provides units, and 4.5.7 doesn’t:

Runtime and query time in 4.5.7 was in seconds. Multiply by 1000 to get the time in milliseconds.

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#40 2016-08-05 18:02:14

johnstephens
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

ruud wrote #300508:

You can’t just simply change the charset in the config file. The tables in the database need to be updated as well to reflect this change.

Thank you, Ruud! That was my hunch. But I thought tables were created during installation, right? Why would the config file need a persistent reminder of this? For plugins that create tables? Something else?

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