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#31 2006-07-21 13:01:56

Walker
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From: Boston, MA
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

Updated the plugin.

You can now create a tag like this: <code><txp:wlk_qt fieldname=“mp3/video” /></code> and it will use that instead of “video”. (It still defaults to video if you choose not to set this.)

Linky

Last edited by Walker (2006-07-21 13:02:17)

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#32 2006-07-21 13:07:38

pieman
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

that is quite an incredible response!
thank you x 1000

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#33 2006-07-24 01:19:26

NyteOwl
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

On this matter a new article … <a href=“http://www.alistapart.com/articles/byebyeembed”>http://www.alistapart.com/articles/byebyeembed</a>

Last edited by NyteOwl (2006-09-14 00:56:50)


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#34 2006-07-24 02:37:29

Walker
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

NyteOwl, I really feel that that article was written at an inappropriate moment or published at an unfortunate time. Unless one wants to tackle the argument of validating code that is written to the DOM only through javascript, then that article doesn’t really hold relevance for me any more.

The Eolas patch was released on february 28th. Because of this, all audio, video, and flash files should be embedded with javascript now, anyway.

The article is excellent, but I find it impractical to devote time to this issue at this moment.

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#35 2006-07-24 08:28:19

pieman
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

Sorry if I’m opening a can of worms here, but I’m not sure I understand this issue…

To me, it’s preferrable for media files to be in the source HTML so that they can be indexed, regardless of whether this makes the page fail the W3 validator. Does the javascript method have any other benefit than enabling validation?

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#36 2006-07-24 13:17:18

Walker
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

Hell yes.

If you build websites, you need to make them work with IE (95% of users in the world….maybe?), and because of this we now need to use javascript to embed the movie so that IE users do not have the modified behavior of click to activate.

Please please please, web designers and developers, read up on the Eolas issue. The patch was released on February 28, 2006. Please install it on your windows testing boxes and see how it changes the behavior required of users relating to the use of ActiveX-embedded plugins.

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#37 2006-07-24 13:51:32

pieman
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

thanks Walker… I’ll do that

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#38 2006-09-13 21:58:32

slabanosa
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

hey walker

good great plug in for me and eolas compliant too -kudos !
I’m producing QTVR content and would like to include
bgcolor, moviename and kioskmode and ideally all other parameters for QT content for future uses
so why skim it? sure I could hack it for my own use, but maybe you could include that ?

darn shortest eolas.js I’ve hit too, good job.

-m

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#39 2006-09-13 22:38:57

Walker
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

Ok, I’ll add those in.
This weekend, I hope?

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#40 2006-09-13 22:54:52

slabanosa
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

kuwl !
adding them all easy ones eventually for those that know how to use ‘em would be great ;-)
I could live on with my 3 requests though

Last edited by slabanosa (2006-09-13 23:05:44)

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#41 2006-09-14 01:04:33

NyteOwl
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

Late getting back to this thread. I edited my earlier post so it’s clickable.

Re using javascript. Well I’m one of those that doesn’t believe in catering to IE’s idiosyncrasies and MS’s problems more than necessary. Conditional statements provide a decent work around and are transparent to the user. As the cliche goes “<i>there’s more than one way to skin a cat</i>” (apologies to all the ailurophiles).


Obsolescence is just a lack of imagination. / 36-bits Forever! / #include <disclaimer.h>;

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#42 2006-09-14 03:02:07

Walker
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

Okay,

My blood heats up when I hear people talk about not catering to IE’s idiosyncrasies. I use a mac (feh). People say “you’re developing on that?”

If I, as a professional web developer told my clients I don’t believe in catering to IE’s idiosyncrasies, I would be laughed out the room. I had one client I was working with to get their 4Q 2006 release of their hosted web application ready and out the door. They had all the java help on hand they needed, they just knew fuck-all about CSS. So I helped them. Their client base happened to be in an industry which doesn’t tend to upgrade computers within facilities as fast as web designers would hope. Their support profile? IE 5 and up.

I provide a javascript embed-able toggle within my plugin so that people can use it if they see fit or know that their audience has computers which automatically downloaded that Eolas patch. So this argument really is not going anywhere with me. And it shouldn’t have started. Don’t toggle the javascript version on if you don’t want it.

ALA is great. I love many of their articles. But don’t forget the forest for the trees.

Last edited by Walker (2006-09-14 04:24:56)

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#43 2006-09-14 23:14:44

NyteOwl
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

To each his own work ethic.


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#44 2006-09-14 23:20:14

Walker
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

I think you’re confusing ideals with work ethic.

Last edited by Walker (2006-09-14 23:21:39)

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#45 2006-09-14 23:50:27

Walker
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Re: How do I embed QuickTime movies?

Gah. Okay, this has gone waaaayyy off topic.

I have a question about Kiosk mode: why should I include it? There are all kinds of bookmarklets out there that allow one to easily save a movie to the desktop. I even used to keep an html file on my desktop with a single link in it that I would edit and paste in the direct link to whatever I needed and would download it that way.

I’m going to do BG color. I can see why that would be needed. I will also definitely be doing the moviename option (movieID along with this one is almost a given).

I’m going to try and add in Pan, Tilt, & node as well with this next release.

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