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#21 2014-01-24 00:22:52

philwareham
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Re: Improvements to editor (write page, code pages)

No, the last thing I want in Textpattern is a WYSIWYG. Something along the lines of rah_textilebar or MarkItUp would be acceptable though.

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#22 2014-01-24 01:15:18

GugUser
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Re: Improvements to editor (write page, code pages)

That pleases me.

;-)

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#23 2014-01-24 12:39:38

philwareham
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Re: Improvements to editor (write page, code pages)

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#24 2014-01-24 12:59:47

etc
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Re: Improvements to editor (write page, code pages)

The only thing I miss on the admin side are txp tags… compose one’s own write panel, wouldn’t it be loverly?

Back to Earth, sir Trevor mangles lists and looks too wysiwyg, -1.

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#25 2014-01-24 13:06:45

philwareham
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Re: Improvements to editor (write page, code pages)

OK, thanks etc.

I think the way forward is for me to put the new grid layout in place, then provide some static HTML mockups for discussion on how we can move forward (taking into account that the write tab layout and elements need to be customisable for users).

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#26 2014-01-24 13:32:43

etc
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Re: Improvements to editor (write page, code pages)

I’m very limited UI-speaking, sorry, but still:

  • modern browsers handle resize and draggable attributes, so the grid could be dynamic;
  • we could test some element-wise improvements(?), like inputs growing up and centered on focus;
  • separate live textile preview is preferable (for me) to direct input enhancements (wysiwyg, syntax highlight, …)

And thanks for your hard work!

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#27 2014-01-24 13:35:48

sacripant
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From: Rhône — France
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Re: Improvements to editor (write page, code pages)

For a light improvment of Pages and Forms tab, Behave.js is very interesting :

  • it’s very light.
  • Result is allways a textarea. Just improve textarea typing. It’s perhaps important because some users use “It’s all text” for open textarea content in text editor.
  • It add
    • Hard and Soft Tabs
    • Auto Open/Close Parenthesis, Brackets, Braces, Double and Single Quotes
    • Auto delete a paired character
    • Overwrite a paired character
    • Multi-line Indentation/Unindentation
    • Automatic Indentation

And it’s possible to extend possibility with Hooks

The only thing I miss on the admin side are txp tags… compose one’s own write panel, wouldn’t it be loverly?

I’m talking about exactly the same idea in 2009 in french forum

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#28 2014-01-24 13:55:01

etc
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Re: Improvements to editor (write page, code pages)

sacripant wrote #278436:

I’m talking about exactly the same idea in 2009 in french forum

Stef has written the great smd_tabber, but the road is still long.

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#29 2014-01-24 14:11:00

philwareham
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Re: Improvements to editor (write page, code pages)

Yep, Behave.js looks like it could work, too. Lots of suggestions coming in, keep them coming!

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#30 2014-01-24 19:03:26

monkeyninja
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Re: Improvements to editor (write page, code pages)

After a bit more thought I’ve realised another thing that bugs me about working directly from within Textpattern (and other CMSs) is that lack of ability to easily save my progress. By this I mean that from my text editor I can regularly hit cmd+s and save where I am. I know I can regularly click Publish/Save but it is not as convenient and only really works whilst in a draft mode.

I know this is a big change to the workings of Textpattern, but it would be great if you could save a working copy of an article that is live without the working copy being published until you’re ready for it. If Textpattern had this sort of functionality built in I’d probably be more inclined to work from within the Admin area. This sort of thing is also missing from other CMSs I’ve worked with (or available, but not easily implemented/worked with).

GugUser wrote #278420:

As others have written, there are different points of view and ways of working. I for my part I don’t like working with Word and could reverse your sentence: “I suspect there is something really wrong with the way Word in general is handling this.”

;-)

I’m definitely not supporting the use of Word to produce content. It has caused numerous headaches in the past when dealing with customers copying and pasting from Word to TinyMCE (although I’m beginning to figure out how best to configure TinyMCE to fix these issues). I always advise copying and pasting from a text editor rather than a word processor if people must do this.

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