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Re: [wiki] A New Textbook
- Cheering it is! :)
- What about using the TXP-brown or yellow for links? The orange is a little too strong.
- You’re missing a few recent changes, but other than that, it seems fine. I like the URLs of the tag index too.
- Also, you have a few issues in Safari 3.1.2:
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Re: [wiki] A New Textbook
Hi zero!
It looks much nicer! (being that I’ve publicly said I didn’t like it aesthetically speaking)
On the “Learn Textile” section, it’s a “must to” to add this resource: http://thresholdstate.com/articles/4312/the-textile-reference-manual.
I will look in more detail into it later.
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Re: [wiki] A New Textbook
zero wrote:
So, is it good enough now to be the Textbook, even if for just a month or two?
:)
- It looks fugly (sorry for the f-word).
- But it doesn’t matter much, not even a tiny bit, ‘cause it is all about content and the content that zero, you Peter, freshed and made, is truly awesome.
- 10 * eternal * thank you * awesome
* weed * cash;)
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#64 2008-08-11 11:22:35
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Re: [wiki] A New Textbook
Much better without these Peugeot-type links (305), animates me to rummage :) Much easier to search through than Textbook. Abandoning the user levels was a step towards the right direction.
Much work, well done! Thank You!
zero wrote:
if you come across anything weird, please let me know.
- Once switched to a language other than English you can’t return to English anymore without manually altering the URL, the links don’t work in the direction “back to English”.
- “Foreign links” are displayed with strange characters: “Instructions d’installation détaillées”, “Ausführliche Installationsanleitung”, “TelepÃtési útmutató”
- Grey seems to be used for visited links, but changing colors often doesn’t work. (BTW, why are there three colors for links?)
In bad weather I never leave home without wet_plugout, smd_where_used and adi_form_links
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#65 2008-08-11 11:50:41
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Re: [wiki] A New Textbook
I have to give an example for language switching, because it behaves not always like I described (if an article exists you can switch languages in each direction):
Try switching the title page to any language and then back to English, the lang extension remains in the URL. Try clicking de and then es, and you end with “doku.php/es/de”.
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Re: [wiki] A New Textbook
Cheers, everyone! You’ll make a web designer of me one of these days!
JM, I’m stabbing in the dark re Safari and guessing it is to do with position absolutes and source order. I changed the source order and it looks ok in Konqueror. Has that fixed it in Safari?
Regarding link colors, txp yellow is too pale on a white background. I hate txp brown. So I made the orange a bit darker. I still prefer the original orange although I can see what you mean about being a bit strong. I’m open to better suggestions on that. Please NOT txp brown though, I’m really tired of it.
There are 3 link colours, Uli, existing, external and missing. I removed the grey from the external visited. If you looked on the German page I guess the missing links under the Admin Tabs heading were prominent but when alone on a page, I think you’ll find they need to stand out a bit. But again, I am open to better suggestions because colour and artwork are definitely not my strength! You’re right, Maniqui, I ain’t much of a designer (although fantastic compared with what I used to be ;)
I’ve fixed the language links now Uli, at least I hope so. I had to hack the language plugin for style reasons and deleted something by mistake. Regarding the foreign links, “Instructions d’installation détaillées”, “Ausführliche Installationsanleitung”, “TelepÃtési útmutató”, I can’t find them. I copied some weird characters from Textbook, so perhaps they are those. As I could not understand them I thought perhaps someone would correct them when they had access. If it’s not that please let me know and I’ll try again.
jm, I already made the ‘recent changes’ locally but forgot to transfer them, doh! I hope they’re up to date now. And maniqui, I put that link in. Cheers!
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Re: [wiki] A New Textbook
Peter,
Do you want access to the Textbook server to start putting things in place there?
FWIW it’s is kind of broken in Safari and IE but nothing too bad. Also the pink background in the code samples makes the red attribute values really hard to read in Safari.
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Hi Patrick, yes please, I’d like to access the Textbook server! But when it’s right. I’d rather get it right locally first then transfer it. I don’t want it broken at all.
Pink background? I see a very pale beige. Are you meaning when you view pagesource or something, because that might depend on the browser. Have you a url or screenshot?
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Maybe It’s my monitor. This is what I’m seeing in safari for windows. The color is the same across all my other browsers but the Safari font smoothing makes it particularly hard to read.
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Re: [wiki] A New Textbook
- in the tag reference, I think the attributes should be in a definition list.
- please use TXP brown for the links to keep it similar to TXP.com
- I see classes sy0, st0, kw3… we’re not supposed to remember those when editing TXB, do we? And why doesn’t the tag name (txp:something) itself get a style?
- The code example background looks light orange to me (i liked the light grey backgrounds that TXB uses currently). I can barely see the green used for tag delimiters. I think the attribute value should be less visible and the <>=: chars more visible.
- using a heart for the home page is not really obvious (and harder to click, because it’s just 1 char). I’d change that to ‘home’ or maybe just ‘textbook’
Despite what my above comments seem to suggest… great work!
I see Patrick offering textbook server access… so what does that mean?
Will the original TXB content be removed or just moved?
When will Destry show us what he has planned?
Were do we update… the old one or the new one and what if the new version Destry makes is in turn better than this one by Peter… is there a way to pick all the updates from Peter’s version and move them to the other one?
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Patrick, I think you’re a tad colour blind! That’s not pink, it’s beige! Unless I’m the one that’s colour blind! Or you need to take some red off your monitor. But I see your problem. What has happened here is that Bert used <code php> to get those effects. Now I’ve done the tags after H and used a shortcut of two spaces for much of the code but not all of it. So you’ll see some code all dark grey and some like you see above. Now I think that those colours are handy if you’re editing code but not needed if you’re just going to read and copy it. (But I’m used to editing without colours). So you have a choice, do you want to retain the different colours for the code and I’ll change the background, or should I leave the background and take the code colours away?
Ruud, dokuwiki doesn’t do definition lists, unfortunately.
Re brown links, OK, if I object you won’t give up till I change it, so I’ll do it. But I hope the relaunch uses something else! There are other colours that go with #fc3. Mine may not be so good but Matthew if you’re on with the artwork, I hope you come up with some great colours while still retaining the TXP Classic style.
I don’t know what those classes are, must be put there by dokuwiki. Please just ignore them. BTW, you can’t use html or php in dokuwiki (well you can but it’s turned off for security purposes) so writing and editing is done with the syntax most of which can be done via a row of edit buttons. So you can forget about classes.
Color of code background. I’ll try a very light grey then.
I didn’t think the heart would last long, so I can change that to an English name like home or start. It won’t work with ‘Textbook’, I tried it but I think it’s disallowed because it’s the title of the domain.
Regarding server access etc, can existing Textbook be moved to a subdomain and robots.txt set to disallow. Likewise if/when Destry’s super-duper version takes over? There’s also 301s to consider. Anybody got a great idea of the way to do this? I also need to learn how to change the owner and group to www-data for the data directory on the remote host, btw, so any help with moving stuff across will be most welcome.
Re content, there are now two versions. Mine aren’t quite the same in many cases. It’s kind of people to say great content, however I’m missing some new images which I removed from all articles because they dated it too much. Also some of my articles might not be as good as the original. If people see deficiencies or think originals were better, then they can change them or let me know during the transition.
The good thing about all my articles are that they use no html. I’ve stripped it all away. I was also going to convert them all to mediawiki syntax as well as dokuwiki (yes, there was so much html that they needed making mediawiki friendly) but to be honest, I can’t be bothered at the moment. But they won’t be too hard to convert. Of course, all the originals remain and these could be used on Destry’s version.
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Re: [wiki] A New Textbook
I am actually a bit color blind but on my monitor it looks more salmon then what I would describe as beige. Like I said it could just be this particular monitor I’m on right now. My main issue was with the contrast.
As far as migrating data around. This is where it would be much simpler if we stuck to one platform. Dokuwiki syntax and mediawiki syntax are not the same so any time we need to port one into the other there will have to be cleanup.
There are at least 3 definition list plugins for dokuwiki.
I don’t know if I can create subdomains (I couldn’t on robson) but we could move current textbook into subfolder.
Also this can all wait if we want and see how things shake out. I’m not real sure how to proceed as Peter is doing a lot and it is being well received, and it’s not like I want to be a roadblock.
Ideas welcome.
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