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#106 2008-06-17 21:53:30

kvnmcwebn
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Re: Marketing TXP

hakjoon wrote:

Honestly I kind of feel like the last thing textpattern needs is one more site.

We already have txp.com, txp.net, txp.org, txpmanual, textgarden, textplates, We love txp, txpq, textpattern pro, txplanet, and txpmag

At wordpress.com almost all of the above data is accessible on one site from a simple tab menu. (Except the blog which launches a new site.)
With Textpattern this info is spread around to much as mentioned above. Theres broken and out of date links on the plugins download site.
Maybe thats not as accessible as it could be. Maybe there should be a redesign contest to consolidate the info into one or two sites, i would submit some jpegs if there was. The logo is the first thing to be changed imho.
Just thinking out loud.

edited to say-my design work is mediocre and im only a fringe user of txp – i dont want to sound pretentious .

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#107 2008-06-17 22:33:56

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Re: Marketing TXP

Kevin, perhaps you don’t know but the redesign thing all started here and then went here. Somewhere amongst all that good stuff (you need to read it all to see why it has come to the stage it is now at) Wet decided there were enough words and it was time for action so started this wiki with various guidelines including graphics/logo. I then started this thread (with no intention or idea it would become so long!) which would have affected the relaunch if my modified idea had been accepted but it seems I am alone wrt an extra site. So really it’s all gone beyond contest ideas and needs actual work on the relaunch now. It’s a wiki so you can sign up and leave your ideas, jpegs etc because I don’t think the roles are finalised or anything like that yet, although all kinds of work might be under way that I don’t know about. That’s my understanding anyway.


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#108 2008-06-17 22:56:31

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Re: Marketing TXP

thanks zero

i was just brainstorming.
here are some rough screenies:

http://www.macdesign.eu/textpattern.html

Obviously still needs a lot of work but if anyone thinks i should continue give me some input on the content.

-best
kevin

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#109 2008-06-18 13:28:41

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Re: Marketing TXP

Nice thread!

I totally agree with the use of a aggregated official domain.

I also think there sould be a professional version witch would pay for all this effort, no kidding!

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#110 2008-06-18 13:55:39

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Re: Marketing TXP

kvnmcwebn wrote:

http://www.macdesign.eu/textpattern.html

I hope it was only very very quick and rough attempt ;)

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#111 2008-06-18 14:15:00

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Re: Marketing TXP

beztak wrote:

I hope it was only very very quick and rough attempt ;)

hey now…

Its only a quick sketch, if anyone wants to confirm content and or offer encouragement i will do a bit more..

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#112 2008-06-18 14:47:13

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Re: Marketing TXP

Hi Kevin,

I must admit I can’t see the differences between the three screenshots! Am I blind?

Regarding the design, it’s nice, simple, inspired on current txp.com.
Although, I would like to see something even more “texty” (text/CSS based), and less shiny.

Wet stated some Design Principles on the relaunch wiki.
I think your design goes on those design principles, but at the same time, it looks too corporative (particularly, the main navigation) for my taste.

Just to keep in mind: Home Page Design Guidelines

kvnmcwebn wrote:

Its only a quick sketch, if anyone wants to confirm content and or offer encouragement i will proceed, not going to spend time for no reason.

I don’t know exactly who has a vote on any submitted sketchs (probably, mainly, the core devs), but don’t hesitate in proceeding and spending time, if you enjoy doing it.
But at the same time, I will encourage you to avoid feeling sad/bad if someone doesn’t like your sketchs or if your sketchs aren’t being taken in consideration.
I believe there is always some ego involved in any cooperation (being a design, a chunk of code, a plugin, some content) but keeping our egos at minimum is safer for everyone and the whole community.


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#113 2008-06-18 15:15:11

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Re: Marketing TXP

maniqui wrote:

bq.I must admit I can’t see the differences between the three screenshots! Am I blind?

nearly the same, the reason I did the slight variations was becuase i read somewhere(wiki?) the bg should to be white, so one of them is white the other two have slight tints. I think its harder to read on a ffffff bg.

thanks for all the input and links, ill take it on all board.

i feel motivated to pitch in if i can because i’ve gotten a lot of help on here.

-best
kevin


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#114 2008-06-18 15:16:05

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Re: Marketing TXP

patchwork wrote:

I also think there should be a professional version which would pay for all this effort, no kidding!

In that case we’re looking forward to your donation ;)

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#115 2008-06-18 16:39:01

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Re: Marketing TXP

thebombsite wrote:

As Robert suggests, I think we need to wait until a uniform method for deploying themes is arrived at.

Can we have an IRC meeting to come up with a uniform method?

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#116 2008-06-18 17:30:43

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Re: Marketing TXP

hcgtv wrote:

Can we have an IRC meeting to come up with a uniform method?

  • Suggested starting points: mcw_templates/hgc_templates (my eyes keep popping out whenever I try to find the difference between those, besides the directory) plus cnk_versioning
  • Guide lines
  • Time frame for implementation: Post Txp 4.0.7

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#117 2008-06-18 18:49:29

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Re: Marketing TXP

wet wrote:

Suggested starting points: mcw_templates/hgc_templates (my eyes keep popping out whenever I try to find the difference between those, besides the directory)

I emailed Mike West when I decided to use his plugin for my templating scheme, he never emailed me back. So I decided to fork it and go my own way with it.

My reasoning for changing the location of the directory.

Guide lines

I have a nice wiki page also.

Time frame for implementation: Post Txp 4.0.7

That sounds good to me.

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#118 2008-06-18 22:38:01

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Re: Marketing TXP

that template installation looks brilliant


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#119 2008-06-25 02:51:51

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Re: Marketing TXP

I had this monstrous post I was making under the “Forum and Website” forum about, of all things, “marketing” and how badly Txp needs it and how it should start with a modernization of .com..etc.. and then, miraculously, I found this thread and Poof! there went a very long chunk of time down the drain.

@wet: Pat’s right. I have no ownership of .net. Dean backed the wiki project in the beginning, but it was always a bit of mystery who the real elves were. I always just assumed it was TxD folks. I know Pedro had hands-on, but I think he’s long gone.

@Bert : Cracking me up about that $10 domain thing and herding the cats. Yes, you have to take control. Someone has to be in control.

@zero: I agree with the other sentiments about NOT creating any more textwhatever domains. Consolidation is something I tried preaching over and over long ago.

Which leads to the final comment to no one in particular. I have never understood why people try and force a distinction between a blogging engine and a CMS (other than to bash the former). If you just call it what it is, a content publishing system, then there’s no distinction and no snipe-hunt marketing angles to pursue. Everybody wins with Txp, and that’s how you communicate it under a single web entity. Use the pitch of “You can do X, Y, and Z with Txp.” Where letters are whatever you want to sell. One publishing engine; does whatever you want it to.

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#120 2008-06-25 06:49:06

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Re: Marketing TXP

Nice post Destry! Good to see you back ;-)

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