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#25 2008-08-19 09:01:29

Destry
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Re: [wiki] textbook css

Thanks for the feedback, all. I’m glad we share sentiments about the integrated presentation of the sites. I’ll go ahead and do a forum mockup too since I have the Fireworks master already. That’s not to suggest I (personally) would take on the actual retooling of the forum skin, but the mockup would be there for anyone wanting it for reference.

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#26 2008-09-10 07:13:45

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Re: [wiki] textbook css

I stayed home with a sick child yesterday and managed to find enough time to reskin my local copy of MW with the design. I still have some adjustments to make, but then I’ll port it over to a public installment for everyone’s looky-loo.

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#27 2008-09-12 16:02:37

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Re: [wiki] textbook css

Well I had a few more things to twiggle, and more yet need done, but here’s the demo, a true MW wiki reskinned with the concept. That site won’t stay open indefinitely, but we’ll give it a bit.

I haven’t checked every targeted browser yet (namely modern versions of FF, Opera, Safari and IE, with an additional exception to IE6 for exercise, and Chrome for curiosity).

It works fine in FF and Safari on Mac. There’s a huge bug on Opera that is affecting floated divs which I have not yet figured out. It must be something in the new v.9.5 because Opera has generally worked good for me in the past on floated divs. It works good in Chrome. It’s a little broken in IE7, but that’s an easy fix. I will be a lot broken at the moment in IE6 because I have not yet handled the conditional comment file. Basically I just haven’t addressed IE yet, but will.

Other things to note:

  • The “hide/show” link in the table of contents disappeared in the transfer from my Mac to Joyent server. Not sure why but that needs figured out.
  • I’ve made it so all wiki editing functions are gone from the interface when a user is not logged in. Keeps the interface cleaner if you’re just reading the wiki.
  • The masthead is assumed to be temporary (and I will use it locally anyway); when the final .com concept is realized, the masthead navigation and stuff can be brought into line. The content presentation should be fine no matter what.

I’m not allowing editing at the moment. It’s just for looking at a demo of the initial mockup. Content should be edited in context of the real TextBook location.

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#28 2008-09-15 08:34:53

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Re: [wiki] textbook css

Forgot to mention a couple of things…

First, the language links will appear in the right column under the search as originally conceived. Nothing shows in the demo location because there’s no translation there.

Also, the “title bar” (div containing the “TextBook” title) does not have borders like conceived because of the need for the background color to blend with the active menu item above it (namely, “Docs”). If you add the borders around the title bar and tabs, the top border of the title bar cuts across the menu item tab because it’s later in the flow of markup. A z-index would have to be used on the menu bar, but this can only be done with a position:absolute, which would make it near impossible to position accurately under this particular design (when you take into account center alignments, text resizing and so forth). So, I dropped the borders for now. Interesting note here, this is not a problem on FF or Safari for Mac, which is why I did not catch it before. On Mac, the border does not cut the tab. I have no idea why or how this works, but it’s true, and I’ll add a little screenshot here when I get the chance to prove it.

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#29 2008-09-25 16:30:50

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Re: [wiki] textbook css

Destry mentioned more about his work in progress here so I suggested he was being presumptuous. He replied and my reply to that is here:

I wasn’t baiting anything, just saving you a lot of unnecessary work if you are being presumptuous. You’re right that there were some positive comments in the link you posted. But I do not remember wet saying Mediawiki was the way to go though. As for languages, that’s not a problem.

Anyway, if the community prefers your one huge great and awesome pile of… then that’s fine by me. I will be astonished but I will accept that decision if in fact that is what the community wants.


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#30 2008-09-25 17:10:15

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Re: [wiki] textbook css

zero wrote:

I do not remember wet saying Mediawiki was the way to go though.

Right here

And I would say Dokuwiki is not all that great after experiencing wet’s.

Anyway, if the community prefers your one huge great and awesome pile of… then that’s fine by me. I will be astonished but I will accept that decision if in fact that is what the community wants.

No problem. Same here. If they want your pile, fine by me. Though in my case I am only concerned with what Patrick thinks because he’s the one with the keys and clout. If he’s convinced by the community, that’s a different story, but I don’t see indication of that yet, so I work.

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#31 2008-09-25 17:18:55

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Re: [wiki] textbook css

Gentlemen, sorry to intervene but may I kindly ask you to proceed with your personal duel on Twitter or wherever this kind of “he said/me said” is publicly exhibited these days, and keep the discussion here on topic…

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#32 2008-09-25 17:28:23

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Re: [wiki] textbook css

This is not a personal duel. I’m just asking for clarification of whether the community wants the mediawiki or the dokuwiki version of textbook/docs. Please state your preference.


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#33 2008-09-25 17:38:15

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Re: [wiki] textbook css

This thread is about “textbook css”. Neither Ruud nor me nor “the community” as an amorphous entity will run Textbook but purely edit content. Which will probably work in both Wikis, so it’s up to the one who runs Textbook to choose the infrastructure component s/he likes best. Causa finita.

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#34 2008-09-25 17:41:37

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Re: [wiki] textbook css

“mediawiki backend/style + the dokuwiki content” version?
“Destry efforts + zero efforts” version?

About the keys for the next Textbook version… if on its new relaunch, TxB is moved —as I expect—, to docs.textpattern.com (or textbook.textpattern.com), then someone else (devs?) has the keys.

Last edited by maniqui (2008-09-25 17:42:40)


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#35 2008-09-25 18:21:23

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Re: [wiki] textbook css

OK, so I just converted all the dokuwiki pages to mediawiki syntax, except for links which will have to be done manually. So if you want them, email me and I’ll post the link.


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#36 2008-09-26 16:47:25

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Re: [wiki] textbook css

maniqui wrote:

About the keys for the next Textbook version… if on its new relaunch, TxB is moved —as I expect—, to docs.textpattern.com (or textbook.textpattern.com), then someone else (devs?) has the keys.

Moving the domain is kind of out of my hands, so someone else needs to speak to that.

Last edited by hakjoon (2008-09-26 16:47:35)


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