[wiki] Install Textile support for the wiki?

hakjoon · 2007-06-12 18:55:20

We’d have to move Textbook in order to use the PunBB user support as it is based on a cookie. So it would have to have urls like

forum.textpattern.com/textbook or
textbook.textpattern.net/forum or
www.textpattern.com/forum and www.textpattern.com/textbook

Personally I think the last one is the best option but it’s not up to me. We’d have to do something similar to do the second Mod. The Mediawiki extension seems similar (have to look a little closer) and seems to have some issues.

hakjoon · 2007-06-12 19:00:06

This actually seems ideal from an integration perspective with PunBB. Could someone who reads fench please take a look?

My high school french is not keeping up.

Jeremie · 2007-06-12 19:10:27

I’m still disappointed with Destry, but I could give you a hand. What do you want to know?

edit: after reading the piece, it seems simple enough, just like a translation off the thing in Punres.

Add this to the Doku local.conf:

$conf['useacl']  =1;
$conf['authtype']='punbb';
define('PUN_ROOT','/root/to/punbb/');

magic_quotes_gpc needs to be deactivated, but there’s an untested workaround/hack.

And in local.php you need to have:

$conf['superuser'] = '@Administrators';

Last edited by Jeremie (2007-06-12 19:13:08)

Jeremie · 2007-06-12 19:24:23

On the domain issue, I think it’s best to have everything under one domain. TXP still needs as much visibility as it can get, and it’s better from Google point of view. Easier to built a strong indexing, at least,

So textpattern.com/manual/ and textpattern.com/forums/ seems good to me.

/manual/ more because TextBook doesn’t speak that much to the newcomers. But that’s minor.

And with or without the leading www. doesn’t matter, just have to be one or the other, not both.

On the administrative issues, I don’t think there are any. TXP.com is or will be on a VPS, ssh and ftp user can be jailed; whatever the domain or subfolder that’s in their care.

Destry · 2007-06-12 22:00:21

Jeremie wrote:

I’m still disappointed with Destry,

Story of my life these days. Getting it from all ends. Tomato farming is sounding better by the minute, or agriculture of some sort.
So, surely it’s not that password thing like…25 years ago.

As for my involvement in this, in case that was the implication, the wand of glory was humbly passed to Patrick, which he accepted, and I gladly took my place among the sheep, the black variety. I had good intentions to continue helping with wiki editing stuff, but frankly I just don’t have the time anymore. I don’t even have the time (and increasingly the desire) to visit this forum much anymore, outside of just reading a thing or two here and there and defending my honorable name. I’m tired, plain and simple. Tomatos.

To the other inquiry, yes, Jeremie was right, I was talking about DickieWiki’s I18n support, which appears to have matured since we first selected MW for the job.

Now, everyone, do the right thing…give good Sir Patrick your strong arms of wiki support and let this old dog die in peace.

hakjoon · 2007-06-12 23:08:02

Let me see about pursuing the domain issue with Mary. Everything is on the same server already so it’s really just apache setup issues to move it all to textpattern.com. The jails are already in place.

As far as Dokuwiki goes I’m willing to give it a shot but there is the job of porting the theme (or creating a new one) and then migrating all the content.

I’m not signing up for maintaining 2 wiki installations. MW is enough of a pain as it is and honestly right now it’s just me. Destry is editor emeritus in retirement and David_1cog is in permanent Australian sebbatical.

Jeremie · 2007-06-13 00:22:37

If you need anything else from the French page you linked, just ask.

I think it would be best to (if you want to make the move, I’m still not convinced but hey, I don’t manage the thing so it’s your decision) install a test setup, fiddle with it, see if you and other supports of TextBook and/or Doku can make things the way you want.

But without a automated converter, I’m not sure there enough free time and good will to make the move swiftly and efficiently. But again, your call.

Destry · 2007-06-13 17:49:55

hakjoon wrote:

Destry is editor emeritus in retirement and David_1cog is in permanent Australian sebbatical.

:) That’s good, Hak.

I’m in agreement with Jeremie here…I don’t see the point of migrating, but only because of one good reason … shortage of manpower … which hak has pointed out well.

I don’t buy into the idea that a different wiki or a different syntax is suddenly going to make the wiki bulge with new content. Pffft! It isn’t going to change anything. What will change something, in the right direction, is more committed volunteers; people who adopt a responsibility to do something continuously in the wiki, whether it’s maintaining a section of content (like rsilleti and manaqui do/did in the Tag pages), managing a particular task (keeping article photos up do date with interface changes), wearing the thankless badge of editor and guides maker, taking control of presentation, and so forth. If TextBook has these key points covered, like all other successful wikis do, then sure, why not? Migrate! Otherwise… pfft! From a retired point of view, I would suggest a recruitment activity take place before any migration does, and make them sign contracts.

But I’m emeritus retired, so don’t listen to me.

hakjoon · 2007-06-15 02:00:17

I also doubt the there will suddenly be a huge influx of authorship if we switch software. Installing Textile seems worth it though. It makes it a little more textpattern-esque.

alicson · 2007-07-16 05:13:03

Sorry to just jump right in here, and I admit I haven’t thoroughly read every post in this thread…
but,
actually, I believe that a change of syntax WOULD make a big difference in terms of receiving new content.

If the wiki syntax had been replaced entirely by Textile back when TextBook started, I’m pretty sure I would have lost weeks of sleep just adding as many entires as I could think of. Sadly enough, wiki syntax really does feel that unfriendly to me. I know it’s just a preference thing.. but there would also be much less of a learning curve of syntax was not an issue.

People here are Textpatterners or learning to be. If contributing to the wiki/navigating/managing it were more like Textpattern — even if only the Textile syntax — I think it would make a huge difference.

hakjoon · 2007-07-16 14:11:51

Just to update:

Unfortunately the extension author has never answered my question if we can use the official Textile release or if it only works TextilePHP.

I also want to know if I can tell certain articles to use MediaWiki syntax so that I can just set textile as the default and then we can slowly convert the existing pages to textile.

Since I’m not getting any answers I’m going to have to experiment whcih always takes longer, but I am planning on integrating it.

alicson · 2007-07-16 14:16:46

Thanks Patrick.
‘looking forward to that.

Seems like a good time as any to get back into Textpattern world. :)

::goes to search for whatever happened to DC Textpattern meetup plan::

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