backend structure/categorize forms

mrdale · 2006-04-05 16:24:50

>alexandra
I like your mockup, almost exactly what I was thinking (but was to busy(lazy) to flesh-out. I do think that consolidating the save/save_new into one would be better, less confusing.

You could do so by:

Putting both save/save_new side by side.
Having a “other…” in the category select that reveals a field for a new category.

Otherwise, magnifico

alexandra · 2006-04-05 16:47:07

Thanks guys for your feedback.

I did split ‘Create form’ and ‘Change form’ into two boxes as we need at least one button for ‘create forms’ as it is right now in TXP – but the current solution in TXP does not look appealing to me. so i change it.

The boxes can be collapsed so it should not be an confusing interface … in fact i regard it much better for beginners.

The category inputfield under ‘Change form’ should be a drop down field.

At this point, and if you agree, we should talk to some programmer (sencer) how about coding this and what the coding problems might be.
What you think?

Last edited by alexandra (2006-04-05 16:48:18)

marios · 2006-04-05 17:00:29

Defenitely, to have may be the chance to get it included at least in 4.1.0,

regards

mrdale · 2006-04-05 17:08:17

Don’t want to rain on this parade, because I think we’ve added some useful thoughts…

…But I doubt something like this is likely to make it into a release anytime soon. We have, at best, a consensus of three which is a start, but there are a great number of people using TXP.

The Devs are extremely sensitive to adding clutter to TXP, and watch over the “simplicity principle” like hawks. read here

It doesn’t hurt to try, but just be prepared for more feedback (good and bad) consensus is hard.

alexandra · 2006-04-05 18:13:04

Well, TXP development has to proceed anyway. And we have to start with something….
If stuff like that will not be added someone will come along, fork TXP and use what we worked out. It is that simple.

mrdale · 2006-04-05 18:20:39

>Alexandra
I wasn’t criticizing, merely wanting us all to calibrate our expectations about 4.1. By all means let’s present what we have, I think it’s pretty useful.

hakjoon · 2006-04-05 19:01:13

I like the current “create new form” (even though alex doesn’t like it :P) which basically throws a blank form in the editing area vs. having a whole separate “create a new form” area. It seems confusing to have mirror option sets available all the time.

For example, what am I doing in the mockup? Creating a new form or editing the all_sites form?

It seems that adding a category drop down to the current UI along with the collapsing flippers would accomplish the same thing with less confusion.

Lovin’ everything else though.

alexandra · 2006-04-05 19:29:10

hakjoon schrieb:

For example, what am I doing in the mockup? Creating a new form or editing the all_sites form?

As i mentioned above: the image displays 2 scenarios at the same time. (I was too lazy to prepare 2 images :)) Actually one of the boxes (Create new form / change form) will be closed and all you see is just a tab. It is not very different from the current solution.

However, it would be great to know, how much work it would be to programm form categories? Is the collapsing cat´s and boxes done by javascript?

hakjoon · 2006-04-05 20:52:05

alexandra wrote:
As i mentioned above: the image displays 2 scenarios at the same time. (I was too lazy to prepare 2 images :))

It helps if I read doesn’t it.

Is the collapsing cat´s and boxes done by javascript?

Javascript would seem like the ideal solution for me, as it would be fairly straight forward to implement. A simple class change on click would take care of it and it could work for making the category the currently edited form belongs to be expanded by default. (if currentFormcategory = thisCategory then class = expanded)

Only thing that I think could work just with javascript is the create new form area since that would need to reset the page to a blank form. Could probably be done with javascript though. I’d hae to take a closer look at how new forms are handled.

alexandra · 2006-04-05 21:21:07

hakjoon:

I’d have to take a closer look at how new forms are handled.

Would be great if you could have a look and tell me.

I guess adding a table for form categories is not that much of a problem. correct?

Last edited by alexandra (2006-04-05 21:21:34)

davidm · 2006-04-05 21:47:53

alexandra wrote: I agree with mrdale, marios suggestion is a bit confusing… i like mrdales suggestion a bit better cuz it is easy to understand. so here is my suggestion based on mrdales work. the image in fact shows 2 scenarios at the same time: adding a new form, changing an existing form. Categories can be collapsed.

I love the idea, nice to see things are moving forward here (yeah, I am still alive and as advertised, an eye on txp :P )

alexandra · 2006-04-05 22:06:14

Hi David nice seeing you beein´around!*
Since days i like sending you an email asking for … (well, i better send you my email :))

Yeah, i really wished categories for forms beeing applied. So the question is: who is doing that. who can programm my request? what is needed? how can i be of help?

davidm · 2006-04-05 22:35:48

alexandra wrote: Hi David nice seeing you beein´around!* Since days i like sending you an email asking for … (well, i better send you my email :))

I didn’t get it ?!? (been having trouble with GMail though, lately… don’t know what’s up with google these days…)
You can be sure I would have answered of course…

iblastoff · 2008-01-03 01:39:39

another old thread but meh..i see some good thoughts and nice mockups here. the clutter of forms has finally caught up to me. a simple collapsable heading for each type of form would definitely ease things up a bit.

amavai · 2010-01-21 11:05:14

Hi People!

So, is there some plugin to help forms organized?

Thanks!

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