Override form missing in plain Write Tab - but not in article edit

saccade · 2020-11-22 08:32:27

Good morning,
I’ve ran into a weird effect in a 4.8.2>4.8.3 brand new install:
Override Forms is on by default in my install.
I think I even used it when writing an article from scratch.

But now suddenly this is different:

When opening the Write-Tab, there is no override forms.

If I write and save and close,
and the re-open (as for all other articles I open for editing) the override form field is present and working.

I already disabled each and every plugin, but even without any plugin override form is not available in the plain Write tab.

I already checked another fresh install: Different. override form present even in a plain not yet filled or saved Write tab.

Last edited by saccade (2020-11-22 09:39:10)

saccade · 2020-11-22 09:59:41

OK, urgently needing a solution I at least found out whats the reason (or the beginning):

I renamed the “articles” Section (to German “artikel” because I want an understandable URL).

But this causes the vanishing of the override_form-field.

If I rename it again to “articles” the field is there again!

I could of course make a second section “artikel”, but “articles” then will remain in my section-field, which is very uncomfortable for my clients.

etc · 2020-11-22 10:29:15

Hello,

have you checked the state of Allow form override? pref when renaming sections?

Weird issue…

etc · 2020-11-22 10:45:38

It looks like the value of Default publishing section pref is not updated on section rename. Try updating it manually when renaming the corresponding section. Thank you for the report.

Edit: Neither is it updated when the default section is deleted.

Bloke · 2020-11-22 11:10:35

etc wrote #326973:

Neither is it updated when the default section is deleted.

*gulp* It’s possible to delete the default section? I thought a default section had to exist so the front page worked. Worrying…

Thanks for the report, Michael.

Last edited by Bloke (2020-11-22 11:11:22)

etc · 2020-11-22 11:14:51

Bloke wrote #326974:

gulp It’s possible to delete the default section?

I meant the default publishing section, sorry.

saccade · 2020-11-22 11:28:35

No, I didn’t delete the default section (and I couldn’t have done so I think). I didn’t delete anything but (as I did for 12 years now¹ ;) ) renamed the “articles” section to “artikel”, which never was a problem.

Allow_form_override has not been touched, which is correct in my view.
as I looked into the core code and experimented a little bit I also noticed, tha “allow_form_override” has not any influence on the behaviour (in fact I even short circuited this as a test). the function form_pop didn’t do anything (but I didn’t find where the use of “articles” comes into effect).

So I think etc is right: its the “default publishing section” which on rename isn’t changed. I’ll check that.
EDIT which is “default_section” in the prefs. and true it still has the value “articles”.
Wonder what happens, if I switch it to another third one (which on a fresh install I had not generated yet) and switch it then again to “artikel”

¹ I have to concede that I didn’t use “override-form” systematically. Maybe it has disappeared all the time before, and I only used it in article-edit view. So I didn’t miss it until now. But now I have an install, where I have three choices of display, and want that to be present from the beginning.

Last edited by saccade (2020-11-22 11:45:24)

saccade · 2020-11-22 11:39:23

Result: Works like a charm :)
By switching the default_(publish)section to another one the default_section-entry is updated. By switching it to the renamed articles/artikel the new value is correctly “artikel”.
And the form-override is there again!

This also is the workaround until it is fixed.

etc · 2020-11-22 12:12:42

It’s mostly fixed in 4.8.4, up to display refresh on sections delete.

saccade · 2020-11-22 13:00:04

Fine! Thank you!
best wishes and hopefully a sunny relaxing sunday for all of you!

etc · 2020-11-22 21:26:08

Should be fixed, please stress-test it for all kinds of section update.

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