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#1 2012-07-23 15:56:28

wornout
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From: Italy
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What features would you take from ExpressionEngine

Recently I worked for the first time (!) in ExpressionEngine.
I’d like to know what features would you like to take from it and integrate them in future versions of Textpattern.
Personally I like the custom field system of EE (fields group, required fields etc…) and the way to customize the entry page.

What’s yours?

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#2 2012-07-23 16:35:55

bici
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Re: What features would you take from ExpressionEngine

In addition to seconding your suggestion of custom fields, which makes formatting content at a greater granulaity a real boon, esp for content providers (editors), It would be nice to have:
A) editing of the templates natively outside the DB or alternatively a Mountee ( hellomountee.com ) like solution.
&
B) some greater intergration of a number of plugins into the core.

I am in the process of starting a new web site for a friend in Italy using TxP and one feature that would be nice is the ability to have a custom field or two for him to easily add a photos from the main article input area.

ps. I have used EE since it’s pMachine days and also Textpattern since its early Dean days.


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#3 2012-07-23 19:16:04

philwareham
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From: Farnham, Surrey, UK
Registered: 2009-06-11
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Re: What features would you take from ExpressionEngine

Better custom field features in core are coming in Textpattern 4.6, which hopefully won’t be as long to wait as the period between 4.4.1 and 4.5.

Customising the write page fields/order will probably be more feasible when we move the HTML to a more modern structure at 4.6 (a lot of groundwork has already been laid at 4.5 to make this easier).

I too have also called for the option of storing template files outside of the database as a pref toggle but we’ll see if that materialises at some point, not my field.

What plugins exactly do you think should be in core then, theoretically?

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#4 2012-07-23 19:38:01

bici
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Re: What features would you take from ExpressionEngine

Hi Phil –
Good news about Custom Fields and the Write area. I am looking forward to these features.

As for plugins I am not the best person to suggest which should be in the Core as I try to use as little of them as possible as i don’t like to become dependent on possible orphaned plugins which will break a site with a new release of TxP.

bot_privs – which basically has a greater granularity of access/ editing privileges

EBLimage editing/uploading pre-formatting / thumbnail Crop styles and upm_image

contact forms
cbs_category_list categories and subcategories should be in Core if at all possible
rvm_if_this_article and any others that use conditional for selection of Articles and Categories sections.

just my 2cents

looking very much forward to 4.5!


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#5 2012-07-23 22:57:15

philwareham
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Re: What features would you take from ExpressionEngine

@bici

Totally agree on the contact forms, that should be in the core of any CMS as standard. Doubt the image editing stuff will ever be core though – that really is plugin territory.

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#6 2012-07-23 23:14:08

artagesw
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Registered: 2007-04-29
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Re: What features would you take from ExpressionEngine

There is a middle ground that I think deserves consideration – core plugins. It’s a best-of-both-worlds approach, allowing the core to be kept “lean & mean” while still incorporating important functionality via plugins without the usual “orphan risk.” (Core plugins are maintained by the core team and included with the core product download).

This approach also allows users to strip out unneeded functionality, if desired, in a completely safe manner.

BTW, re contact forms, I’m planning on porting my Escher form plugin over to Txp. It is capable of handling practically any type of form – not just contact forms – including multi-step forms and multiple forms per page.

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#7 2012-07-24 04:44:35

tye
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Re: What features would you take from ExpressionEngine

Sam – sounds interesting :)

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#8 2012-07-24 05:32:10

philwareham
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Re: What features would you take from ExpressionEngine

@sam

Yes please! If there were a bunch of core plugins that could be turned on/off as required, that would be a huge step forward for textpattern. Also means I could control the look and feel of them in themes better.

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#9 2012-07-24 07:57:08

Algaris
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From: England
Registered: 2006-01-27
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Re: What features would you take from ExpressionEngine

philwareham wrote:

I too have also called for the option of storing template files outside of the database as a pref toggle but we’ll see if that materialises at some point, not my field. What plugins exactly do you think should be in core then, theoretically?

I would be very happy if this was to become part of the core or a core plugin. I use the cnk_versioning plugin for every site I work on, which is unfortunately orphaned. For the moment it seems to be surviving on patches from the community but who’s to say it won’t fundamentally break with some future release?

As for (other) plugins I’d like to see in the core?

adi_link I’d really like to be able to do this natively <txp:adi_link id="21" /> in the same way that I use Textpattern’s image or article tags.

rss_unlimited_categories Unlimited categories across articles, images, files and links, etc. is the holy grail for me and the one thing I always keep banging my head against with every Textpattern site I work on.

I do like the sound of core plugins as one of my main concerns regarding Textpattern is becoming too reliant on plugins, only for them to become orphaned and eventually break.

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#10 2012-07-24 08:50:49

Dimitri
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From: Johannesburg
Registered: 2010-10-31
Posts: 129

Re: What features would you take from ExpressionEngine

Hi All.

I am experienced in EE. I must say it is pathetic for Txp not to have any advanced search plugin.
Expressionengine have a great one built in or this one Super Search

This would be great to have unlimited custom field duplicates per entry. Great for building a menu or table
Matrix

Awesome, flexible menu builder for clients, would be easy to add section and custom article path for this feature.
Taxonomy


<txp:way_too_cool />

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