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#1 2011-07-28 19:15:06

philwareham
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The "Welcome to Your Site!" article

I think this article needs to be updated to reflect new guidelines laid down by Destry in the style guide documentation, so…

First, maybe change:

Welcome to Your Site!

to:

Welcome to your site

Just sentence capitalised and with no exclamation mark (since this is not an exclamation).

Then the article itself:

h3. What do you want to do next?

* Modify or even delete this article? The "article list":/textpattern/index.php?event=list is the place to start.
* Change this site's name, or modify the style of the URLs? It's all up to your "preferences":/textpattern/index.php?event=prefs.
* Get yourself acquainted with Textile, the humane web text generator which comes with Textpattern CMS? The basics are "simple":http://textpattern.com/textile-sandbox. If you want to learn more about Textile, you can view the extensive "Textile Reference Manual":http://textpattern.com/textile-reference-manual.
* Study the "Textpattern CMS Semantic Model":http://textpattern.com/textpattern-semantic-model?
* Add "another user":/textpattern/index.php?event=admin, or extend the capabilities with "third party plugins":/textpattern/index.php?event=plugin you discovered from the central plugin directory at "Textpattern CMS Plugins":http://textpattern.org/?
* Dive in and learn by trial and error? Then please note:
** When you "write":/textpattern/index.php?event=article an article you assign it to a section of your site.
** Sections use a "page template":/textpattern/index.php?event=page and a "style":/textpattern/index.php?event=css as an output scaffold.
** Page templates use HTML and Textpattern tags (like this: @<txp:article />@) to build the markup.
** Some Textpattern tags use "forms":/textpattern/index.php?event=form, which are building blocks for reusable snippets of code and markup you may build and use at your discretion.

There are a host of "frequently asked questions":http://textpattern.com/faq/ to help you get started.

"Textpattern tags":http://textpattern.com/textpattern-tag-reference, their attributes and values are well explained and demonstrated at the "Textpattern CMS Documentation":http://textpattern.net/, where you will also find valuable tips and tutorials.

If all else fails, there's a whole crowd of friendly, helpful people over at the "Textpattern CMS Support Forum":http://forum.textpattern.com/. Come and pay us a visit!

What do you all think? Feel free to offer any changes you think should be made.

Last edited by philwareham (2011-08-12 12:33:40)

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#2 2011-07-28 19:54:53

michaelkpate
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Re: The "Welcome to Your Site!" article

* Be guided through your "Textpattern CMS First Steps":http://textpattern.com/textpattern-first-steps by completing some basic tasks?

This article has been deprecated as noted here.

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#3 2011-07-28 20:13:23

philwareham
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Re: The "Welcome to Your Site!" article

michaelkpate wrote:

This article has been deprecated as noted here.

So should I remove that line completely or is there alternative content for that purpose now?

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#4 2011-08-12 12:34:30

philwareham
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Re: The "Welcome to Your Site!" article

Since I’ve not heard any more on this, I’ve removed the line Michael flagged as deprecated. Any more issues?

Last edited by philwareham (2011-08-12 12:34:44)

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#5 2011-08-12 14:16:35

hcgtv
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Re: The "Welcome to Your Site!" article

Phil,

Is this officially being changed or are you proposing a change? Also, are you in charge of creating a new front side theme and admin theme for the next Textpattern release?

I believe these threads would get more attention if they had some official seal of approval, or else we’re all thinking it’s another wish type thread, and nothing may come of it, and we don’t want to expend energies, so we don’t reply.

As for the Welcome to your site article, I would have a simple congratulation notice, like hey you did it, and then point them to a getting started section at the Textpattern CMS User Documentation site (wiki). This takes the welcome message out of the setup process (dev controlled), and moves it to a user controlled process at the wiki.

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#6 2011-08-12 14:34:03

philwareham
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Re: The "Welcome to Your Site!" article

Robert has tapped me to do the front-side theme rewrite (which I’ve mostly done now bar a few language strings and a few misc bits/fixes).

He was also interested in using a development of Hive theme for the admin-side, but I’ve suggested (and Stef agreed) that the admin-side needs a total structural rebuild instead since there is lots of old crud there that’s built up over many years and illogical and unnecessary classes/IDs on things. So I’ve started gathering and implementing a proposed new structure for that. From there a new admin theme can be designed.

So whilst I’m at it I might as well (unofficially) also look at the other bits that need improvement – in this case the welcome article and default links (such as Textbook link) and post them as issues on the SVN. It’s then up to the devs whether they decide to take that and implement it.

I’m in no way precious about any of this, in fact I’d rather other people contribute, but since no one else much seems to want to step up and actually move things forward I’ve carried on regardless.

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#7 2011-08-12 17:15:13

hcgtv
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Re: The "Welcome to Your Site!" article

philwareham wrote:

I’m in no way precious about any of this, in fact I’d rather other people contribute, but since no one else much seems to want to step up and actually move things forward I’ve carried on regardless.

I really like the new default front side theme, I’m already using it as the default on new installs. I’ve also tweaked the default forms, lofi met an untimely death, as did others. My welcome article section of txpsql.php is very short, and I’ve got the preferences just the way I like them.

What I’m doing with Textpattern is probably the norm for many web developers, they take the core code and tweak it to their liking and use it on their own projects. Most often these tweaks never make it into feature idea threads, because of time constraints or they don’t care to rock the boat.

As for moving things forward, I could point you to many threads talking about making the default install a bit more user friendly. I could also point you to the work that was done at xPattern on the admin side, which was one of the first things the group took on.

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#8 2011-08-12 18:14:25

philwareham
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Re: The "Welcome to Your Site!" article

hcgtv wrote:

As for moving things forward, I could point you to many threads talking about making the default install a bit more user friendly. I could also point you to the work that was done at xPattern on the admin side, which was one of the first things the group took on.

Yes please do, the more info and ideas I get the better. I dont have any say in what txp5 will be or contain, but even if 10% of this stuff ever makes it into txp5 at least we explored it and suggested it.

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