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#25 2005-01-20 00:12:19

Mary
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Registered: 2004-06-27
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Re: [plugin] [ORPHAN] zem_prblock

Hmm, well you could link to Google’s blog entry near your comment form “your spam won’t work here”, might keep away some of the non-automated spammers.

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#26 2005-01-20 00:29:43

Andrew
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Registered: 2004-02-23
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Re: [plugin] [ORPHAN] zem_prblock

Trust me, the cheap-ass software that the spammers are using is not going to be considerate enough to read that text or check anything else on your page. The only motivation they have is to spam as many systems as possible in as little time.

The situation that created comment spam has to do with the fact that getting links — no matter where or how — works to improve your rankings in search engines. Take away that bone, and (so the theory goes) they’ll stop chasing.

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#27 2005-01-20 00:38:03

zem
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: 2004-04-08
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Re: [plugin] [ORPHAN] zem_prblock

Incidentally, the nofollow technique is causing quite a stir in the SEO world.

(seochat posters are generally white-hat, but it’s a popular lurking place for black-hat spammer types)

More reactions linked here.

Last edited by zem (2005-01-20 00:39:44)


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#28 2005-01-20 01:01:33

Andrew
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Re: [plugin] [ORPHAN] zem_prblock

i’m hearing echoes ;-)

Last edited by compooter (2005-01-20 01:02:11)

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#29 2005-01-20 04:25:54

Jeremie
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Re: [plugin] [ORPHAN] zem_prblock

This method will take months before it has any impact at all on spam.

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#30 2005-01-20 04:48:15

bleveck
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Registered: 2004-05-30
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Re: [plugin] [ORPHAN] zem_prblock

sorry about the “echos” ; )

Yeah… I fear you are right Jeremie. I just figured that since spammer bots look for a posting area, they might look for a clear signal that their spam won’t gets posted on a certain site. Problem is that regardless of any tag, if the bot found your site, how much more work is it to make a fruitless post. Even if that post is fruiless, it is probably not much work at all

I really do think you are right… except for maybe large blogging sites with managed software (like Typepad) the change in behaviour will be really slow.

One thing I’ve been pondering is… how many bots know Textile?

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#31 2005-01-20 12:01:44

michaelkpate
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Re: [plugin] [ORPHAN] zem_prblock

> zem wrote:

> Incidentally, the nofollow technique is causing quite a stir in the SEO world.

Yeah, I happened across this post yesterday. My feeling is that while it may not stop the spammers from doing it, at least we can disincentivize the results as much as possible. And as for the SEO world, they are always upset about something or another.

Last edited by michaelkpate (2005-01-20 12:02:06)

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#32 2005-01-20 12:31:23

ubernostrum
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From: Lawrence, KS
Registered: 2004-05-05
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Re: [plugin] [ORPHAN] zem_prblock

I think Textpattern is relatively safe, but I agree with those who say that posting a notice on your site does no good; most spammers have programs which simply run a Google search for “mt-comments.cgi” and then start posting comments on all the sites which come up as results. They never look at the sites they’re spamming.


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#33 2005-01-20 13:10:01

Jeremie
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From: Provence, France
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Re: [plugin] [ORPHAN] zem_prblock

> zem wrote:

> Incidentally, the nofollow technique is causing quite a stir in the SEO world.

Oh – my – god

These guys are… well I can’t find the appropriate english word for it…

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#34 2005-01-20 17:46:20

thebombsite
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From: Exmouth, England
Registered: 2004-08-24
Posts: 3,251
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Re: [plugin] [ORPHAN] zem_prblock

Are you guys aware that Shaun has issued an update so that ShortStat can do this for you?


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#35 2005-01-21 02:05:14

Andrew
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Registered: 2004-02-23
Posts: 730

Re: [plugin] [ORPHAN] zem_prblock

I just had another thought. In addition to a nofollow whitelist, perhaps an additional option in comment administration can be enabled (if you’ve set nofollow to TRUE on your site) so that you could manually disable nofollow on a per-comment basis. Ideas?

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#36 2005-01-21 02:44:00

ramanan
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Registered: 2004-03-12
Posts: 323
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Re: [plugin] [ORPHAN] zem_prblock

Computer, that would be ideal. I think the implementation would have to be quite different from what zem has done however.

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