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#11 2011-06-29 19:45:06

Destry
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Re: Facebook and I

While I understand the gripes about FB’s in-or-out nature for group access, I don’t think that’s really the point here. The point is there are people who do use Txp and FB, but not this forum (surprise), and it’s very good for Txp’s rep to get out and rub elbows more often. I’m very happy to see Bloke in there holding court (almost) as much as myself. People in that group have really livened up even after a few days. And several new members just today.

Not everybody who lives here needs to go there (FB or otherwise). Some will stay here, solely. Some will stay there, solely (or at least never interact here like they do there), and a few will float among the islands as the mood strikes them. That last kind is an important kind; they’re like seeds on the wind who spread news and ideas around.

I shared my feelings about FB at the start of this thread, but I’m surprised to say that for the first time in 3 years of having an FB account, I’m actually enjoying FB with this Txp group. The ease of having conversations there is quite catchy, and there are some good conversations going too. And I’m happy to say everyone there is really polite; even the WP users (yep, their there too).

Technologically speaking, FB’s responsiveness really makes this forum seem clunky and slow. That’s not a praise for FB, necessarily, it’s just a fact. I’d say the same for any other tool if I thought that were the case. I think when the new plugin site launches, eventually, a lot of people’s need for this forum will diminish quite a bit.

But there are sure to be some Harry Trumans, I suppose. :)

(And the fawking spam here already, sheesh!)

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#12 2011-06-29 20:46:58

hcgtv
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Re: Facebook and I

Destry wrote:

I think when the new plugin site launches, eventually, a lot of people’s need for this forum will diminish quite a bit.

The Textpattern community is this forum, diminishing this forum will in turn diminish the community. The new plugin site may be great, but having to follow comments on it would not be too much fun. Every successful Open Source project on the web has a very lively forum, they may compliment it with Twitter or Facebook, but the hub is the forum.

I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell.
Harry S. Truman


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#13 2011-06-29 20:59:42

net-carver
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Re: Facebook and I

I hope the forum doesn’t die off. Nice and useful other social media may be: but I like the forum. There is a certain stability to it, an independence, despite the problems.

Google just announced their FB alternative and the pope seems to be backing twiter. Personally, I can’t tell which social media site will win out (if any) so should we join them all? Would that dilute the conversations from here, or enrich them? I have no answers.

However, I’ve never used FB and probably never will as I do have a problem with their terms and conditions (having just been tempted to try signing up to see what the fuss was about.)


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#14 2011-06-29 22:20:44

Destry
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Re: Facebook and I

net-carver wrote:

I hope the forum doesn’t die off.

I’m not saying “die-off”. I agree the forum has a place. Definitely. I just don’t think it’s as big of place as it’s historically been relied on.

hcgtv wrote:

The Textpattern community is this forum, diminishing this forum will in turn diminish the community.

I agree with the first part, but that’s because it’s been cultured that way. I don’t agree with that last part. All signs suggest this community has been diminishing already. And what is the forum community anyway? About 40 (generous number) people who do all the talking (I guess including me). If that’s the community you’re worried about, I don’t think you have to worry. The forum will be around for those folks. No, I would counter that if this community doesn’t leverage environment, it will continue to be pretty invisible to the rest of the world. But, again, if being invisible is this project’s aim, then don’t change a thing, you’re doing good. :)

Personally, I’d like to see more of this kind of thing happening around the world.

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#15 2011-06-29 22:55:36

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Re: Facebook and I

Destry wrote:

But, again, if being invisible is this project’s aim, then don’t change a thing, you’re doing good. :)

Don’t look at me, you can ask the devs that question.


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#16 2011-06-30 06:05:11

wet
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Re: Facebook and I

hcgtv wrote:

Don’t look at me, you can ask the devs that question.

Why? When was visibility abandonded being a marketing figure and turned into a technical aspect?

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#17 2011-06-30 06:28:51

colak
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Re: Facebook and I

Destry wrote

The point is there are people who do use Txp and FB

I agree and I also am fully aware of the marketing value of FB. In that sense I believe that a txp presence is social networking sites is the right thing to do. I just hoped that there was a way for the content to be viewed by non members.


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#18 2011-06-30 06:34:10

Gocom
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Re: Facebook and I

wet wrote:

Why? When was visibility abandonded being a marketing figure and turned into a technical aspect?

Don’t take it as disrespectful, but then should others market your project for you? Textpattern isn’t our project, it’s yours. If the guys behind it won’t market it (or get official entity to market it for them), then neither really will anyone else. Like, we will talk about it and use Textpattern, share it, but you are the official entity — no one else. You have the keys, anything that goes to the project is up to you, really.

I don’t mind if you don’t do any marketing, push the word out there. It just means you don’t do marketing. From my perspective means that business benefit of using Textpattern is minimal, hard to find professionals for projects and jobs.


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#19 2011-06-30 06:38:22

wet
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Re: Facebook and I

Gocom wrote:

Textpattern isn’t our project, it’s yours.

Interesting.

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#20 2011-06-30 06:57:53

Gocom
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Re: Facebook and I

wet wrote:

Interesting.

So, it’s some sort of community effort now then? I don’t see it. TXP is just an open-source project maintained by couple devs at their free-time. Nothing more.

We others are just users. We take what given. Some of us take the code, make forks of it, others make business out of it. Others provide some sort of variety-grade community support. But we are not a personal army or a marketing team, nor strong open source elitist group.


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