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#13 2014-02-26 21:01:37

philwareham
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Re: getting newsletter to subscribers

I used to use phplist and I really don’t recommend it. Bulk emailing from your own server is a recipe for all kinds of trouble.

Good luck if your server gets blacklisted.

I’d rather use a trusted sender like MailChimp or StreamSend – and my clients are willing to pay a fair fee for transmissions – so the price isn’t an issue for me.

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#14 2014-02-26 21:04:01

philwareham
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Re: getting newsletter to subscribers

Also, if you are using shared hosting – check your terms of use. Because you may be in breach of service by running a bulk emailer on your site, for the reasons I outlined above.

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#15 2014-02-27 00:28:34

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Re: getting newsletter to subscribers

planeth wrote #279282:

Hi Colak,
have you another mailing service in mind which could be better ?

Mailjet is another good option. I use it for cloud emailing for a business which requires consistent delivery of emails and a means to check if a mail was received/opened or not. They also do transactional mails and newsletters, but their newsletter designer is arguably not as good as Mailchimp.

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#16 2014-02-27 07:24:48

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Re: getting newsletter to subscribers

On the subject. I normally use lyris.com/us-en/contentchecker before sending any bulk emails to minimize its chances to go into spam. I know that mailchimp has its own filters.

>Edited to add: mailjet’s pricing looks more reasonable. I only send about 8 emails/year to a db which currently has 2400 subscribers. Can anyone post a brief comparison between mailchimp and mailjet or provide an alternative?

Last edited by colak (2014-02-27 07:51:55)


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#17 2014-02-27 08:17:33

philwareham
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Re: getting newsletter to subscribers

There’s no magic filter that can stop your emails being flagged as spam, all it needs is for a few of your hotmail/live/gmail users to manually flag an email and you could risk being blacklisted. The threshold that most senders set is 0.1% (some are lower) so that means if more than 1 in 1000 recipients flag a message as spam you are potentially at risk.

I think MailChimps credits pricing would be your best route. Also check out StreamSend as an alternative – it’s not as nice as MailChimp IMHO (although it’s still good) but might have a more suitable pricing structure to you.

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#18 2014-02-27 08:18:48

planeth
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Re: getting newsletter to subscribers

colak wrote #279299:

mailjet’s pricing looks more reasonable. I only send about 8 emails/year to a db which currently has 2400 subscribers. Can anyone post a brief comparison between mailchimp and mailjet or provide an alternative?

Mailchimp allows you to send more mails (12000) to more subscribers (2000) than mailjet on free account. I checked very shortly just to estimate the need of my client.

Don’t know how long it would take to write some code to use Mailchimp API. Basically : subscribers db sync, and newsletter sending.

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#19 2014-02-27 09:19:07

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Re: getting newsletter to subscribers

philwareham wrote #279300:

I think MailChimps credits pricing would be your best route.

I never understood that one!


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#20 2014-02-27 20:14:46

planeth
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Re: getting newsletter to subscribers

My question Phil, if your client is using Mailchimp, is the newsletter content completely apart from his website ?
Or does he pull the content manually from the website to include it in the layout provided by Mailchimp ?

Excuse all my stupid questions, i’m just trying to figure out how to make things easy for my client.

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#21 2014-02-27 22:51:16

philwareham
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Re: getting newsletter to subscribers

We created a template for clients within the MailChimp system – it’s separate from the CMS, they create content that points back to articles on their Textpattern sites. Fairly simple but it works well for them.

I have another client that does have complete CMS integration of user accounts into the mail sender, but that is a Drupal to Exact Target integration and it’s big money they spend. They do have 1.4 million subscribers though.

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#22 2014-02-28 07:08:32

planeth
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Re: getting newsletter to subscribers

Thanks Phil

philwareham wrote #279313:

We created a template for clients within the MailChimp system – it’s separate from the CMS, they create content that points back to articles on their Textpattern sites. Fairly simple but it works well for them.

So they just copy/paste the permanent url of their content into the template.

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#23 2014-02-28 08:30:36

philwareham
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Re: getting newsletter to subscribers

Yep

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