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Observations from this brief exchange…
This should be taken as a shot over the ship’s bow… to address some of the concerns/misconceptions expressed by this person, because she’s probably not the only one. And maybe step up outward noise about key evolutions that forum dwellers take for granted (e.g., knowledge of custom fields in 4.6). Maybe more regular developer blog articles, or more use of the Textpattern G+ page for the routine little stuff. It’s easy to link to and provides great conversation tools for a wider audience. Twitter was clearly not the right medium for her reply, for example…
OK, I’ll address some of those concerns where I can – although I realise by stating this all in the forum I’m probably speaking to converted anyway, but see point 6:
Any other info, roadmaps and Textpattern 5 details, are not my place to say.
Yes, we need to be better at this. Communication, that is. In the current IA, the .com blog seems the wrong place to put “We just added xyz to the core, watch out for it in the next release” type propaganda, but some things have gone in there recently.
The other social channels would probably be a better place for that kind of thing, as it broadens the discussion, albeit being limited to small one-liners, or linking to a full-featured .com post from G+.
Facebook is used for polls and random mentions at the moment. If people would benefit from “we can haz been working on this” thing being chucked on the various channels — and Rose seems to indicate it would — then we should make a point of increasing the chatter.
P.S. for anyone who thinks we’re “just tweaking”, please check out the nightly builds. The amount of graft gone into realigning the markup on the admin side for Hive’s entrance, the removal of lots of crufty old presentational tables, the new Sections panel, the move towards a more responsive AJAX methodology for some of the panels… it’s all helping leap the platform forward for themers and plugin authors. And there’s much more to come.
Last edited by Bloke (2012-07-13 18:38:20)
7. I’ll be planning on doing some introductory videos for .com site too – in fact I started creating one last weekend as a tester. If anyone wants to get involved in helping make those videos, then all the better.
That sounds good.
What about an official YouTube channel? Textpattern is taken (and wasted), unfortunately, but TextpatternCMS is available.
That would not only make a place for core videos, but it would allow an easy means for making playlists of other Txp videos in YT, and there’s a lot of them to cull through.
Would also make a nice platform for handling Txp video competitions? :)
Hey! This is Rose….
Ok, I was not expecting this to be addressed as it was, but given that it was shows once again the amazing community support of developers here.
I want to thank you for clarifying many misconceptions that I had. Although, as of right now, I’m still going to work with WP. Strictly for the reason that it has more potential at this moment than the current version of TXP. Once TXP starts releasing new versions, this will probably change (because the difference between php and the tag system y’all use is basically like the difference between walking to hell on legos and the land of fluffy bunnies and rainbows).
One main point that I have – Phil pointed out that TXP is not run as a business. This may be true and I understand the reasoning behind this decision. But honestly, as a developer, I need the reliability of a business run CMS. Y’all are eventually going to end up in the same boat as EE was in when they announced that EE2 was coming out and then it didn’t actually come out until an entire year later where they lost a lot of support and customers because EE kept saying “It’s coming, it’s coming” but it wasn’t available. This issue is very prominent though throughout the marketing system. Good example – Diablo 3 (video game) was announced by Blizzard and then several years later it was actually released. Bad marketing.
Although, this issue I believe is what Phil was addressing when he said “with what we hope to be a reduced time between new releases”. This is good.
I completely agree that TXP’s communication to the developers world could use some revamping. I am a good example of why this is the case… I was uninformed/misinformed.
Anyways, all of this is good news. And thank y’all for addressing it.
I will keep my eyes peeled towards any new development of TXP.
I was uninformed/misinformed.
Rose, where do you usually look for this kind of information? I don’t think we ever can make as much signal (or noise) as the WordPress community but how for instance do you track other vendors in that space?
Photoblog? Textpattern is a publishing system. The day it becomes a blogging platform with as sloppy a codebase as WP (IMHO) I’ll be looking for a new application.
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