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#11 2011-08-09 19:20:32

net-carver
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Re: sed_default_article_status

merz1 wrote:

Shouldn’t ‘draft’ be the active default status after installation & activation?

Maybe. For now I have the default initial setting setup to follow the core and use live. If we can hash out a consensus in this thread as to which of Pending, Draft or Hidden should be the plugin’s default then I’ll build that in to the next release.


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#12 2011-08-09 19:36:04

philwareham
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Re: sed_default_article_status

I personally think you should leave it at the core default (live) on installation and let the plugin user change it to whatever they wish afterwards.

Last edited by philwareham (2011-08-09 21:29:45)

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#13 2011-08-09 20:52:50

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Re: sed_default_article_status

Says on the tin:

it only needs to be installed and active (turned on) to work.

Cool! That’s what I want. (Default: Pending.)


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#14 2011-08-09 21:34:41

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Re: sed_default_article_status

uli wrote:

Says on the tin: “it only needs to be installed and active (turned on) to work.”

Ah, that needs a little re-write on the help page as it’s a left-over from Destry’s initial pub plugin. Thanks for catching that. Edited to add Done: To opening post for links

Cool! That’s what I want. (Default: Pending.)

Ok, votes so far are…

live 1 (philwareham)
pending 1 (uli)
hidden 0
draft 2 (merz1, joebaich)

Any others?

Last edited by net-carver (2011-08-10 10:20:46)


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#15 2011-08-10 02:26:07

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Re: sed_default_article_status

+1 Draft (or should that be Draught :-) ?)

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#16 2011-08-10 10:23:58

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Re: sed_default_article_status

I’m tempted to remove live from the running. After all, you’d not need to install the plugin if you wanted that as your default :)

Phil: If that were the case, how would you vote?


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#17 2011-08-10 10:40:52

philwareham
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Re: sed_default_article_status

Well… there are two opposite arguments I guess:

From a UX perspective it’s always best, when adding new features to an app, to leave any preference affected by that new feature at it’s default (in this case ‘live’), and from there the user can modify to a new setting if they wish.

But since this is an additional plugin that someone has to manually install anyway, I guess it would be OK to move the default to a different setting on install. My vote would be ‘draft’ in this case.

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#18 2011-08-10 12:46:00

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Re: sed_default_article_status

Help text: After installation and activation article status draft (<- link to article status help) is the active default setting for saving a new article. This setting is changeable via extended preferences under publishing.

Help text: sed_default_article_status is a Textpattern wide setting and can not be set to a different individual value for every user.

Q: Btw … Which user roles are affected?

I’m tempted to remove live from the running.

Don’t :) I see screaming authors who want to switch back & forth eg when hammering out batches of announcements but want to have ‘draft’ for the deeper thoughts on 42.

Last edited by merz1 (2011-08-10 12:49:21)


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#19 2011-08-10 17:58:45

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Re: sed_default_article_status

merz1 wrote:

Don’t :) I see screaming authors who want to switch back & forth eg when hammering out batches of announcements but want to have ‘draft’ for the deeper thoughts on 42.

Hi Markus, when I said “remove live from the running” I was only talking about options for the initial value of the pref when the plugin is enabled for the first time. Live will still remain in the list of choices so it can be changed.

Help text: After installation and activation article status draft (<- link to article status help) is the active default setting for saving a new article. This setting is changeable via extended preferences under publishing.

Help text: sed_default_article_status is a Textpattern wide setting and can not be set to a different individual value for every user.

Thanks for the suggestions. Once the final functionality is agreed and in place, I’ll revisit the help page for a tidy-up.

@philwareham Thanks for the feedback. I’ll keep that in mind & I’ll leave your vote where it is for now.


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#20 2011-09-26 15:52:12

philwareham
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Re: sed_default_article_status

I seem to be having a conflict between this plugin and arc_twitter. When they are both active I get the article status radio buttons displaying twice on the write page. Weird.

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