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#21 2009-10-06 08:51:23

trenc
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Re: [contrib] The Textpattern brand

The script then downloads all the files you need and even generates config.

I don’t really like this. It’s maybe easy to use, but it’s a huge gate for security issues (see Wordpress and the online update function).

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#22 2009-10-06 12:13:11

johnstephens
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Re: [contrib] The Textpattern brand

Yeah, I stand corrected! Please, don’t do anything to make Textpattern more like WordPress, especially in terms of security.

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#23 2010-01-31 14:28:52

JimJoe
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Re: [contrib] The Textpattern brand

masa wrote:

jsoo wrote:

My suggestions are to clean up the installation process, […]

One thing, that would make it a lot smoother, is, if Textpattern could create the config.php automatically in the right location, rather than asking you to start a text editor, paste what’s on the screen in an empty document and then ftp it into the Textpattern folder. I always felt, these three extra steps somehow interrupt the installation process.

I’m sure, if these steps could be skipped, Textpattern would quickly gain a reputation for being exceptionally easy to install.

My post:

I didn’t find the extra steps to be a problem. I have found Textpattern to be much easier to deal with than other blogs/cms I have tried. Certainly better support than Movable Type and Work Press. I did do the tutorials and foind some things confusing around step 6 or 7. I’ll post about that when I have time to go back over that page and write down what didn’t work for me.

Overall I give tp a ‘ta-dah !’ or maybe a ‘yippeee !’. Far easier to install than even going through Fantastico on my domain, which I am trying to stop using. Fantastico, not my domain.

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#24 2010-01-31 14:34:53

Els
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Re: [contrib] The Textpattern brand

JimJoe wrote:

I’ll post about that when I have time to go back over that page and write down what didn’t work for me.

Thanks JimJoe, that would be helpful! And glad you like Txp :)


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#25 2010-01-31 17:53:41

JimJoe
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Re: [contrib] The Textpattern brand

The basic config worked fine. No problems there.

My MT blog has 1,606 entries and over 200 categories. The Importer into TP brought 364 entries and about 100 categories over. may not seem like many made it over… but its better than many of the importers i have dealt with in the past. I used the ‘type in database name, IP, username, password’ and run it method. None of my 11 static faq pages copied over that I see so far.

Here is the url for First steps where i tried the tutorials:
http://textpattern.net/wiki/index.php?title=Textpattern_First_Steps

Task 6: I got rhubarb rhubarb to show up but not the cabbags bit.

Task 7: the fun page template part didn’t seem to work for me. I was kinda tired, so I may have mistyped or something.

The plugin part worked fine. I use other methods of adding images so I skipped that part.

When the tasks asked me to look at RSS and Atom links, I saw blank center part of pages. The sidebars showed like they did on other pages, just fine.

Task 10: section 7 where it talks about the tag builder, that didn’t show up. I don’t use tags, so it doesn’t matter to me, but I mention it as I know many others use tags.

While I have been puzzled by a few things… (typical of new user to a program as far as I can tell), I have had an easier time of it than the other 10 blogs/cms I have tried to deal with in the past. I have over 20 years of computer tech support experience, so I do wonder why some blogs, not textpattern, uses obfuscation in their manuals. Shrug, I hadn’t noticed anyone trademarking or copyrighting the words ‘article, entry, post, category’ and a few others.

So when someone creates a blog/cms set and talks about ekieki instead of categories, I tend to not use such software. I have enough to do, without having to reinterpret the Rosetta Stone all over again. :-)

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#26 2010-01-31 18:32:57

Els
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Re: [contrib] The Textpattern brand

JimJoe wrote:

I don’t use tags,

Hmm… funny, how does your site work then? ;)


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#27 2010-01-31 18:58:16

JimJoe
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Re: [contrib] The Textpattern brand

With categories. Unless someone snuck one in on me and categories are actually tags in textpattern… :-)

My prior experience with tags is a ‘tag cloud’ of a blob of words. Seems a way to miss something. I prefer an alphabetized, or categorized, list of words that don’t go away if few posts are made to that particular subject.

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#28 2010-01-31 19:02:20

JimJoe
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Re: [contrib] The Textpattern brand

Lets see, for the categories and articles that didn’t copy over. Some of the categories were place holders, no data/entries were tied to them yet. Some sub-categories with data/entries copied over, but not their parent categories. Or categories with data/entries copied over, but some lost entries. For example on the last, a category might have 12 entries, but less than 10 made it over. Doesn’t seem to have a pattern to it.

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#29 2010-01-31 19:10:44

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Re: [contrib] The Textpattern brand

JimJoe wrote:

With categories. Unless someone snuck one in on me and categories are actually tags in textpattern… :-)

Aha (lightbulb goes on), we’re talking about different tags ;) The tagbuilder is meant to build Txp tags (like <txp:whatever />) :)

Edit: I think you’d better post in Developer support about the things that didn’t work well using the import script. The devs probably won’t notice it in this topic.

Last edited by Els (2010-01-31 19:14:20)


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#30 2010-01-31 19:46:27

JimJoe
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Re: [contrib] The Textpattern brand

I just posted there about the importer. I’ll mention the task steps that didn’t work for me.

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