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#11 2008-01-07 19:22:51

Manfre
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From: North Carolina
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Re: [feedback] How To Win Friends Who Love Desktop Blogging...

Steve, message me next time you are in the IRC channel. I can help out with the rpc stuff. I don’t use any desktop clients, but I’ve spent a decent amount of time with RPC.

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#12 2008-01-07 22:04:57

maverick
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Re: [feedback] How To Win Friends Who Love Desktop Blogging...

ibastoff

Thanks for working on this. Its appears to be a value to the community, and its great that you are willing to work on it even if it isn’t something you use. Hopefully with variaas manfre it can get updated for those who need it.

In general

In reading some of the discussion on this in various forums and threads . . . . I’ve noticed the “devs” have been criticized for not keeping this up. It vaguely runs in my mind though, that while the download was hosted at Textpattern, and there were instructions on the FAQ on installing it, it was never intended to be considered part of Textpattern proper, or that it was going to be maintained by the Dev. Team. It seems like it was presented as essential a “use at your own risk” item. It was a modification provided by Pedro Palazón.

I’ve viewed its development to be more along the lines of a plugin/mod rather than part of Textpattern, whose author hasn’t continued its development. Am I wrong in thinking that? If not, some of the frustration might be from differing expectations about whose responsibility it is?

Mike

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#13 2008-01-08 14:43:57

hcgtv
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From: Charlotte, NC
Registered: 2005-11-29
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Re: [feedback] How To Win Friends Who Love Desktop Blogging...

maverick wrote:

I’ve viewed its development to be more along the lines of a plugin/mod rather than part of Textpattern, whose author hasn’t continued its development. Am I wrong in thinking that? If not, some of the frustration might be from differing expectations about whose responsibility it is?

When I started using Textpattern, a desktop blogging app would of come in very handy. I remember those first few weeks of awkward Textile usage, it felt foreign, could of used a tour guide. Now, I’m familiar enough with Textile that I can enter a short article in the time it takes me to fire up a desktop blogging app.

Core functionality or plugin? – In the grand scheme of things, being able to hand someone w-bloggar and a userid/password to his/her new site would be priceless.


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#14 2008-01-08 18:25:19

maverick
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Re: [feedback] How To Win Friends Who Love Desktop Blogging...

Out of curiosity I’ve tried using several different desktop blogging apps. It never “connected” enough for me to stick with it and develop the habit of using them. I wouldn’t rule out trying again in the future, though. My intro to Textile was similar. At first I kept setting my articles to xhtml instead, but now use Textile most of the time.

I agree that keeping the rpc server functionality is a potential plus – and for some, priceless :-). I was only indicating that it may not be clear who should be maintaining it. Since we are a volunteer driven community, this might be one of those areas that a non Core Dev could easily share the load. That’s why I’m glad to see some folks working on it.

I’ve got to go back to the books and learn php and javascript so I can help out in the future. :D

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#15 2008-01-08 21:46:20

guiguibonbon
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Registered: 2006-02-20
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Re: [feedback] How To Win Friends Who Love Desktop Blogging...

Core functionality or plugin?

Either way, it’s in the svn, and I’m surprised those few obvious bugs iblastoff collected haven’t been committed yet.

Maybe try the mailing list to shake things up ?

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#16 2008-01-26 04:29:10

NickCaldwell
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From: Brisbane, Queensland in AU
Registered: 2004-03-04
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Re: [feedback] How To Win Friends Who Love Desktop Blogging...

I’m an angry mini-mob. Yay!

Thanks iblastoff. I’m probably going to email you for advice on implementing the changes you’re suggesting.

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#17 2008-01-26 21:10:55

wet
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From: Lenzing, Austria
Registered: 2005-06-06
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Re: [feedback] How To Win Friends Who Love Desktop Blogging...

I’ve hopefully fixed any problems mentioned in this thread here and those discussed over there as well, as far as I was able to reproduce the issues mentioned.

Fixed:

  • Restrict posts list to a selected section (i.e. blog), do not list every post.
  • Use category titles instead of category names for all category-name-based RPC calls, preserve category settings through edits.
  • Use post slugs or basenames specified via the wp_slug or mt_basename structure elements.

Unresolved:

  • Time zone issues

Not implemented:

  • Media uploads and other goodies.

Compatibility:

  • Txp 4.0.5+

Tested with Windows Live Writer, Zoundry and to an extent even with w.bloggar.

You can grab an interim copy here [.zip] or here [.tar.gz]. Depending on the feedback, I will eventually add this to the core distribution.

Last edited by wet (2008-01-26 21:12:46)

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#18 2008-01-27 03:54:59

NickCaldwell
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From: Brisbane, Queensland in AU
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Re: [feedback] How To Win Friends Who Love Desktop Blogging...

Wow, Robert, thanks very much for making that available. I can confirm that posting with Marsedit via the metaweblog api works very well. Sadly, the movable type API is still dead in the water for me – it can create an article but you have to resave it in the textpattern interface for it to exist on anywhere other than the front page of a blog. It also can’t seem to create the category correctly.

I’d love to be able to set excerpt/body, assign keywords, and edit custom fields (the latter would require some extension in Marsedit too, so I’m not going to get my hopes up, heh) but for now this is a great improvement.

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#19 2008-01-27 09:39:07

wet
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From: Lenzing, Austria
Registered: 2005-06-06
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Re: [feedback] How To Win Friends Who Love Desktop Blogging...

Textpattern does not support the creation of new categories through XMLRPC, you will have to go through the web interface for that. I haven’t even found any evidence that the creation of categories is specifed by either Metaweblog or MT. Any pointers are welcome.

This is what works for me with Windows Live Writer as a client (which observes the API protocol quite well, I think):

API post to specific section write body write excerpt set keywords assign categories set publishing date allow/disallow comments
MT yes yes yes yes yes yes yes (bug fixed)
Metaweblog yes yes n/a n/a yes yes n/a

I’ve found yet another bug which affected the comment on/off state and updated the download files ([.zip], [.tar.gz]) with a corrected version of txplib_wrapper.php. I think we might need a little bit of assistance from Red Sweater to pinpoint any issues which do not show up with Live Writer or any other Windows client, as I don’t own a Mac.

If there’s any way for a client to specify custom fields through XMLRPC I’d yet have to find a specification for this. Pointers, anybody?

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#20 2008-01-27 09:51:01

NickCaldwell
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From: Brisbane, Queensland in AU
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Re: [feedback] How To Win Friends Who Love Desktop Blogging...

Sorry, I mis-spoke — I meant “assign” rather than “create” a category on a post. The category assignation works with metaweblog and not MT.

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